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    How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    I see a lot of posters say that Iowa State played like **** against Iowa yet still won. However, I don't really understand where this is coming from. They shot right near their season average (48% FG, 35% 3PT, 64% FT against Iowa; 49% FG, 37% 3PT, 68% FT for the season) in every category and only turned it over 10 times. This is the third Iowa State game I have watched this season (Mich, BYU) and they played just as well, if not better, than they played in those games.

    Is it because Iowa State struggled getting back in transition defense and gave Iowa a lot of easy baskets, so the perception is that Iowa State didn't play well? Or do Iowa State fans just refuse to acknowledge that Iowa's collection of gingers and inferior athletes was able to hang with Fred's bunch? I guess I really just don't understand that line of thinking and would like some perspective from Iowa State fans.



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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    Quote Originally Posted by AltHawk View Post
    I see a lot of posters say that Iowa State played like **** against Iowa yet still won. However, I don't really understand where this is coming from. They shot right near their season average (48% FG, 35% 3PT, 64% FT against Iowa; 49% FG, 37% 3PT, 68% FT for the season) in every category and only turned it over 10 times. This is the third Iowa State game I have watched this season (Mich, BYU) and they played just as well, if not better, than they played in those games.

    Is it because Iowa State struggled getting back in transition defense and gave Iowa a lot of easy baskets, so the perception is that Iowa State didn't play well? Or do Iowa State fans just refuse to acknowledge that Iowa's collection of gingers and inferior athletes was able to hang with Fred's bunch? I guess I really just don't understand that line of thinking and would like some perspective from Iowa State fans.
    ISU never got in a rhythm offensively and struggled getting big stops which prevented a great run that could get the crowd into the game



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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    While our free throw percentage was near our average, that's because we finished 6-6 from the line at the end of the game when we started to dominate. Before the end of the game, we weren't playing very well and shot 17-30 (56%).


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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    Do you still think that ISU will be lucky to make the NIT like your prediction about 6 months ago.

    SCOREBOARD!!!



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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    I think only the most ignorant of ISU fans will not admit that Iowa is a very good team this year. I also think most of the criticism of the way ISU played is aimed towards ISU's defense. However, this is also partially credit to Iowa's offense. It seemed that Iowa had many wide open looks during the game, at least in comparison to other teams that ISU has played. It would be hard to back up any argument that ISU played poorly offensively.



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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    I don't remember ISU's transition D looking that bad against Michigan or BYU. Maybe Iowa is just that good on the break, I haven't watched them play any other games this year, but it sure seemed like all the talk of having to stay out of foul trouble really messed with their heads on defense. And for as good as guys like Niang played, you had Kane and Thomas definitely looking out of sync compared to what they've shown so far.

    Also, just because it's close to their averages doesn't make terrible FT shooting better. It was still terrible FT shooting.



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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    Quote Originally Posted by AltHawk View Post
    I see a lot of posters say that Iowa State played like **** against Iowa yet still won. However, I don't really understand where this is coming from. They shot right near their season average (48% FG, 35% 3PT, 64% FT against Iowa; 49% FG, 37% 3PT, 68% FT for the season) in every category and only turned it over 10 times. This is the third Iowa State game I have watched this season (Mich, BYU) and they played just as well, if not better, than they played in those games.

    Is it because Iowa State struggled getting back in transition defense and gave Iowa a lot of easy baskets, so the perception is that Iowa State didn't play well? Or do Iowa State fans just refuse to acknowledge that Iowa's collection of gingers and inferior athletes was able to hang with Fred's bunch? I guess I really just don't understand that line of thinking and would like some perspective from Iowa State fans.
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    Go **** yourself.

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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    STOP.






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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    Quote Originally Posted by ILiftWithRoyce View Post
    I think only the most ignorant of ISU fans will not admit that Iowa is a very good team this year. I also think most of the criticism of the way ISU played is aimed towards ISU's defense. However, this is also partially credit to Iowa's offense. It seemed that Iowa had many wide open looks during the game, at least in comparison to other teams that ISU has played. It would be hard to back up any argument that ISU played poorly offensively.
    Yea, I should have added, I have no problem admitting Iowa has a good team. In fact, we should all thank them in advance for how good they're going to make us look when they start B1G play.



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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    Didn't shoot the 3 ball that well, didn't shoot FT's worth a damn. Slow getting back into transition giving up quite a few easy buckets. Not able to really get into our offense, wether that be Iowa's D our our poor play, not really sure. The only person who really got easy buckets was Niang, thanks to Woodbury's impersonation of a tree.



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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    85-82 *****



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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    Validate my favorite team!!!111!!1111!!

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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    Quote Originally Posted by weR138 View Post
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    Go **** yourself.

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    If you don't have the attention span to read something for 30 seconds, you might want to see a doctor. Thanks for providing a mature response. You are an exemplary example for all Iowa State fans to follow.



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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    I'm just going to leave this here:





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    Re: How did Iowa State play poorly against Iowa?

    Quote Originally Posted by ILiftWithRoyce View Post
    I think only the most ignorant of ISU fans will not admit that Iowa is a very good team this year. I also think most of the criticism of the way ISU played is aimed towards ISU's defense. However, this is also partially credit to Iowa's offense. It seemed that Iowa had many wide open looks during the game, at least in comparison to other teams that ISU has played. It would be hard to back up any argument that ISU played poorly offensively.
    Iowa is a good team no doubt, but VERY GOOD TEAMS don't blow big 2nd half leads. They've done so in both of their losses.



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