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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    I think the JUCO recruiting says more about the lack of talent and development in CPR's 11' and 12' recruiting classes than it does the talent level of these JUCO kids. You go the JUCO route 1) if there is an amazing prospect that can start for you and really sticks out or 2) you have to recruit JUCO b/c your current crop of kids is not very good. I think the latter is the case.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Bill Snyder has done fairly well over the years with bringing in JUCO kids. Our own Fred Hoiberg is doing this same thing in basketball (I know Basketball isn't the same). I don't have any problem with this approach.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Quote Originally Posted by cytown View Post
    I think the JUCO recruiting says more about the lack of talent and development in CPR's 11' and 12' recruiting classes than it does the talent level of these JUCO kids. You go the JUCO route 1) if there is an amazing prospect that can start for you and really sticks out or 2) you have to recruit JUCO b/c your current crop of kids is not very good. I think the latter is the case.
    I don't think anybody is arguing that. Obviously this staff has missed on a handful of LB's over the years. Needs across the board on defense. But that still doesn't take away from the fact that we think ​these guys should be able to contribute from day one, unlike some Rhoads JUCO's of the past.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Question CW.

    Will this joint venture be available on both CF and the DMR?



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Quote Originally Posted by isuska View Post
    Question CW.

    Will this joint venture be available on both CF and the DMR?
    Yes. It will be in tomorrow's paper. ALready up on Register website. Also when NSD approaches, we will be doing joint videos together breaking down the class as well.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Quote Originally Posted by kyle22kjs View Post
    Bill Snyder has done fairly well over the years with bringing in JUCO kids. Our own Fred Hoiberg is doing this same thing in basketball (I know Basketball isn't the same). I don't have any problem with this approach.
    Pretty sure I have never heard how great Bill Snyder has done with JuCO recruiting before......



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Quote Originally Posted by jburke View Post
    Pretty sure I have never heard how great Bill Snyder has done with JuCO recruiting before......
    Bill Snyder recruits JUCO's?



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    I think you really don't know what you have with Jucos until they get on campus. KU signed some very highly rated Jucos last year and some of them did not pan out.
    Heck Anthony Young and Chris Young were 4 stars.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    On ex-Cyclone linebacker that was a complete stud and I don't think gets enough credit and mention from the past that was also a JC transfer is Alvin Bowen, Dobbins always gets brought up, but Bowen had more college accolades, and still plays professionally (CFL).....



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    I don't think anybody is arguing that. Obviously this staff has missed on a handful of LB's over the years. Needs across the board on defense.
    Call it settling if you will, but I am ok with the staff missing on a few LB's if the one's they get right continue to be All Big12 caliber.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Quote Originally Posted by cytown View Post
    I think the JUCO recruiting says more about the lack of talent and development in CPR's 11' and 12' recruiting classes than it does the talent level of these JUCO kids. You go the JUCO route 1) if there is an amazing prospect that can start for you and really sticks out or 2) you have to recruit JUCO b/c your current crop of kids is not very good. I think the latter is the case.
    Class balance is another reason to go the Juco route. The current sophmore class has 14 scholarship athletes. Nine of those sophmores are on offense while 5 are on defense. Bringing in multiple Jucos on the defensive side in this recruiting class helps keep the balance in each class.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    I hear what you're saying Chris, I really do. Rhoads has done much better lately with the JUCOs, no doubt. I just get a little heartburn when we move from "needing" 2 or 3 JUCOs in a given year, to 6 or 8. It smells a little desperate to be doing 6-8 JUCOs in after Year 5.



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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Keeping my fingers crossed for Pierson. He was supposed to be a package deal with Harris, but taking his visits.




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    Re: RECRUITING: Reasons to be excited about JUCO commits

    Quote Originally Posted by cytown View Post
    I think the JUCO recruiting says more about the lack of talent and development in CPR's 11' and 12' recruiting classes than it does the talent level of these JUCO kids. You go the JUCO route 1) if there is an amazing prospect that can start for you and really sticks out or 2) you have to recruit JUCO b/c your current crop of kids is not very good. I think the latter is the case.
    Why are these things mutually exclusive? Did you even read Chris' article. You clearly missed his premise.



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