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    ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    The #2 Hawkeyes (3-0) are headed to Hilton on Sunday to take on the #6 Cyclones (5-0) in the 78th dual between the two teams. Iowa leads the series 58-16-3 and has won 9 straight since a 20-15 ISU win in 2005.

    Could ISU Win: Well, technically anything is possible. The only matches I'm totally writing off are 133 and HWT. This isn't like the past few years where Iowa just totally outclassed us everywhere. I don't expect the meet score to reflect the improvements the team has made, but I do expect the individual match scores to make that evident. But honestly I'll be happy as long as we win 165 and 197, pick up one upset outside of that, and keep everything else respectable.

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    When: Sunday, Dec 1st @ 2PM
    Live TV: Cyclones.TV
    Live Blog: Here
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    Jackson's Press conference for the dual

    Projected lineups:
    - ISU Wrestler Record Ranking
    Iowa Wrestler Record Ranking
    125 Earl Hall FR 7-1 NR/NR/NR vs Cory Clark FR 7-0 4/6/5
    133 Dakota Bauer 1-2 NR/NR/NR vs Tony Ramos SR 7-0 1/1/1
    or RJ Hallman 6-6 NR/NR/NR - - - -
    141 Gabe Moreno FR 5-4 NR/NR/NR vs Josh Dziewa JR 8-0 14/19/19
    149 Luke Goettl JR 4-3 NR/NR/NR vs Mike Kelly JR 8-0 NR/23/NR
    157 John Nicholson SR 6-1 NR/NR/NR vs Derek St. John SR 8-0 1/1/1
    165 Mike Moreno JR 9-0 3/3/3 vs Nick Moore JR 2-0 8/11/8
    174 Tanner Weatherman SO 7-2 8/9/10 vs Mike Evans JR 8-0 6/6/6
    or Lelund Weatherspoon FR 10-1 NR/NR/NR - - - -
    184 Boaz Beard 0-0 7/8/NR vs Ethen Lofthouse SR 7-0 2/2/1

    Lelund Weatherspoon FR 10-1 NR/NR/NR - - - -
    or Tanner Weatherman SO 7-2 8/9/10 - - - -
    197 Kyven Gadson JR 7-0 3/3/3 vs Kris Klapprodt SO 5-1 NR/NR/NR
    - - - - or Nathan Burak SO 0-0 9/10/NR
    HWT Quean Smith FR 2-4 NR/NR/NR vs Terrance Jean-Jacques FR 8-2 NR/NR/NR
    or Ben Perna 1-2 NR/NR/NR or Bobby Telford JR 5-0 4/3/NR
    or A Lucky Fan 0-0 #1 in our Hearts - - - -
    *Rankings are Intermat/D1Wrestling/AWN

    Weight by weight breakdown:
    125: Clark is going to be pretty special for Iowa. He beat the national champion last season while redshirting and beat Hall 4-2, 4-2 in Freestyle last summer. Hall seems to be a pinner and with his funk he'll always have a chance to pin anybody. But baring a pin I think Clark gets a major.
    Iowa State 0 - 4 Iowa

    133: Commence Phase 1 of operation "Don't get pinned"
    Iowa State 0 - 10 Iowa

    141: This is a match where I look to see little Moreno work his own offense and create action - Iowa is going to dominate those first two matches so Moreno needs to slow down their momentum here and prevent things from getting out of hand. I don't see an upset here but I think Moreno can keep it to a decision. As long as Moreno keeps his head in the game and works his own offense I don't see any reason he can't keep this to within 3-4 points or better. This is a good match to gauge the progress of the ISU program as a whole.
    Iowa State 0 - 13 Iowa

    149: At the start of the season I would have favored Goettl over Kelly. But Goettl hasn't been wrestling well so far this season. If he wrestles like he did that last period against Old Dominion Luke could pick up a win here. So I'll make this an "upset alert" but think Kelly will get a decision. Like 141, this is a good match to gauge the progress of the program as a whole.
    Iowa State 0 - 16 Iowa

    157: Nicholson beat St. John their senior year of high school but I don't expect that to happen again. Nicholson has been pretty decent this season and I haven't given up hope on him breaking in to the rankings. But St. John is a beast and will be out for revenge. I'm guessing St John wins by major.
    Iowa State 0 - 20 Iowa

    165: This should be the best match of the night. Last year Moreno and Moore split, with Moore winning 3-2 at the dual and Moreno winning 5-3 at NCAAs. I look to see Moreno pick up a tight win in a low scoring match. Probably 3-2 or 4-3. Iowa not having wrestled anybody yet should help us here - this is essentially the first match of the year for Moore so he might have some rust to shake off.
    Iowa State 3 - 20 Iowa

    174: Evans beat Weatherman 1-10 at the dual last season, so I'm not sure if we'll see Weatherspoon here to see if that is a better matchup. Regardless though, Tanner has come a long way since last December. And just like at 165 Iowa's schedule to this point hasn't given Evans anything to get warmed up for this level of competition.
    Iowa State 3 - 23 Iowa

    184: Beard lost to Lofthouse last season 3-8 in the dual and 2-8 at NCAAs. Beard is a solid wrestler but has never been able to turn the corner and beat elite guys. And he's coming off an injury so will be rusty in his first match back. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see Weatherspoon or Weatherman take the mat for us here. Either way I expect an Iowa win by decision.
    Iowa State 3 - 26 Iowa

    197: Burak hasn't wrestled yet this year and I'm not sure if we'll see him or not on Sunday. Gadson beat him 5-4 last season and I'd look to see something similar this time around. Gadson has really tightened up since his father passed away and I don't see him getting many majors or pins this year. Just lots of tough fought decisions. If Iowa sends out their backup I expect Gadson to win more comfortably and I'd like to see him pick up a major.
    Iowa State 6 - 26 Iowa

    HWT: Commence Phase 2 of operation "Don't get pinned"

    Final Score prediction: Iowa State 6 - 32 Iowa


    Key Matches:
    141/149: Can little Moreno and Goettl slow down Iowa's momentum after what will likely be a fast start for the Hawks? Can one of them pick up an upset win?
    165: Can Moreno win the rubber match against Moore?

    Last year's result: Iowa State 3 - 32 Iowa
    125 - #1 Matt McDonough (IA) major dec. #19 Ryak Finch (ISU), 13-2
    133 - #3 Tony Ramos (IA) major dec. John Meeks (ISU), 19-7
    141 - #13 Mark Ballweg (IA) dec. #18 Luke Goettl (ISU), 4-1
    149 - Michael Kelly (IA) major dec. Luke Swalla (ISU), 16-6
    157 - #1 Derek St. John (IA) major dec. Logan Molina (ISU), 16-5
    165 - Nick Moore (IA) dec. Mike Moreno (ISU), 3-2
    174 - #7 Mike Evans (IA) major dec. Tanner Weatherman (ISU), 10-1
    184 - #8 Ethen Lofthouse (IA) dec. #16 Boaz Beard (ISU), 10-3
    197 - #15 Kyven Gadson (ISU) dec. Nathan Burak (IA), 5-4
    285 - #5 Bobby Telford (IA) dec. #15 Matt Gibson (ISU), 3-2


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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Good stuff. I'll be there sunday.



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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    HWT is just a dumpster fire this year and I hate it. We always had light HWTs, but they were AAs as well. I miss Zabriskie.


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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    As usual, very solid write up. I see the same two wins, but think Gadson could pick up a BP if he wrestles agressive.

    As you mention, our other chances are at 41 and 49, with 49 being the better of the two. However, I expect to be disappointed at 49 (I have been all year). 25 could be a good one, but it could be a disaster too. I think Earl wins or gives up big BPs (i.e. 5 or 6).

    I almost feel sorry for Bauer (who I expect to get the nod) and Nicholson (St John is a freak).

    If the goal of this is to keep the dual respectable, we have to put Perna out there at HWT.

    Be interesting to see what we do at 74 and 84. Being honest, if Boaz can't go, I would like to see Spoon at 74 and Weatherman at 84.



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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Quote Originally Posted by enisthemenace View Post
    If the goal of this is to keep the dual respectable, we have to put Perna out there at HWT.
    you think 6 - 32 is respectable? I think it is pathetic and unacceptable.



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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Quote Originally Posted by isufbcurt View Post
    you think 6 - 32 is respectable? I think it is pathetic and unacceptable.
    Do you have any idea about how meaningless dual scores are?


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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneswereall View Post
    Do you have any idea about how meaningless dual scores are?
    Only winning 2 matches is sad.



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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Quote Originally Posted by isufbcurt View Post
    Only winning 2 matches is sad.
    Tourney placement > dual wins

    Unless you care about the faux National Championship which no wrestling team cares about.


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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Quote Originally Posted by isufbcurt View Post
    you think 6 - 32 is respectable? I think it is pathetic and unacceptable.
    How about 23-14?


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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneswereall View Post
    Tourney placement > dual wins

    Unless you care about the faux National Championship which no wrestling team cares about.
    I care about winning. And in order for the individual guys to have good tourney placement they need to have a good win/loss record.



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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Quote Originally Posted by enisthemenace View Post
    How about 23-14?
    at least that is more than 2 individual wins



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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Quote Originally Posted by isufbcurt View Post
    at least that is more than 2 individual wins
    I do see the potential for 2 other wins, and the potential for some BP. I wouldn't bet on it though.

    cloneswereall has a point though (big one). We are a MUCH better tournament team than a dual team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by isufbcurt View Post
    I care about winning. And in order for the individual guys to have good tourney placement they need to have a good win/loss record.
    Well, duh. But winning a dual meet means nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cloneswereall View Post
    Well, duh. But winning a dual meet means nothing.
    It's not going to happen, but winning this dual would mean a lot from a rivalry standpoint.



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    Re: ***Iowa Dual Preview/Predictions/Results***

    Quote Originally Posted by isufbcurt View Post
    you think 6 - 32 is respectable? I think it is pathetic and unacceptable.
    I think everyone would agree with this, but were you expecting anything closer? It could be even worse as those six points aren't for sure.



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