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  • Wally Burnham Stays

    45 39.13%
  • Wally Burnham goes

    1 0.87%
  • Courtney Messingham Stays

    6 5.22%
  • Courtney Messingham goes

    63 54.78%
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    Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    Wally Burnham (DC)
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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    This needs to be discussed in another thread WHY?



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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    We need to talk about this immediately as it hasn't been discussed yet.


    PS. Firing Wally or even thoughts of such are absolutely a joke.



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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    I'll be very upset if Wally gets fired. Mess on the other hand...


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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    Why the hell would you fire Wally? That makes no damn sense. The defense was bad this year, but look at how much freaking time the spent on the field because our offense was completely useless. Sometimes thinking about things is good.


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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneYoda View Post
    This needs to be discussed in another thread WHY?
    Because Brian had an original thought, man! And this topic wasn't on the front page, so clearly no one has thought of this before...


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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by westlbcyclone View Post
    Because Brian had an original thought, man! And this topic wasn't on the front page, so clearly no one has thought of this before...
    Normally I like Brian. He must be drunk. No way he does this sober.



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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    "Retained on sympathy"? Seriously????




    Paul Rhoads' players never quit.
    (They just disappear offseason)


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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    I think Mess has to be gone. I have no call on this, but I bet big donors have let the powers to be know they are not happy with the offense. Wally is going to leave or stay when he chooses to. He did not have a good year, but his defense was hurt by lack of numbers and the amount of time they spent on the field because of the offenses floundering.



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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    If you listen to Rhoads press conference. He almost sounded as Wally might retire



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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    I think Wally will retire and have thought this for a few weeks now.



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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    Wally may retire, but there is absolutely no way he is fired or forced out. He's a hell of a football coach and the people who haven't figured that out should stop trying to pretend to understand football.



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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    I really think too many people think the defense was bad this year because of the offense. When you look at the overall time of possession, we had a higher t.o.p. than our opponents 7 times this year with 2 other times that were less than a minute less than our opponents. The defense was just bad this year and was mostly due to personnel. This defense was just bad this year and there really is no way around it. With that said, Wally can do what he wants in the off season. No way his seat should be warm.



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    Re: Are they gone? Or retained on sympathy?

    Quote Originally Posted by EJ4CY View Post
    If you listen to Rhoads press conference. He almost sounded as Wally might retire
    I think Rhoads may know this already, and it was partially confirmed by Wally getting the game ball from the KU game. That's an unusual move, especially for a Senior Night.

    This may also explain why Mess is still around... Rhoads doesn't want two new coordinators at the same time. Mess may get one more shot at it still.



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