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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    They used to be the same but scholarships for men's sports were reduced by ten percent by the NCAA a while back. Which is why in non headcount sports you have weird fractional limits like the 9.9 for wrestling (it used to be 11).



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    I know someone personally on staff at another B12 school and they have told me that Bill is known as a pretty straight laced guy throughout women's basketball. They have told me that other programs are more welcoming of women whose sexual preferences are different than what Bill believes in and it intimidates them. They have told me that his "family" atmosphere is very much displayed.
    Just what I've heard.



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Quote Originally Posted by mred View Post
    Despite the chart, WBB gets 15.
    Well, I demand a refund!




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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Quote Originally Posted by JP4CY View Post
    I know someone personally on staff at another B12 school and they have told me that Bill is known as a pretty straight laced guy throughout women's basketball. They have told me that other programs are more welcoming of women whose sexual preferences are different than what Bill believes in and it intimidates them. They have told me that his "family" atmosphere is very much displayed.
    Just what I've heard.
    You're not even close to the first one to bring this up, will probably get moderated though...




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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Quote Originally Posted by JP4CY View Post
    I know someone personally on staff at another B12 school and they have told me that Bill is known as a pretty straight laced guy throughout women's basketball. They have told me that other programs are more welcoming of women whose sexual preferences are different than what Bill believes in and it intimidates them. They have told me that his "family" atmosphere is very much displayed.
    Just what I've heard.
    Also true. Bill's 'we are a family program.' is open code for 'no gays allowed'. Not something I admire him for.



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Quote Originally Posted by RayShimley View Post
    You're not even close to the first one to bring this up, will probably get moderated though...
    I didn't think I was but I am trying to also respect both sides.



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Also true. Bill's 'we are a family program.' is open code for 'no gays allowed'. Not something I admire him for.
    It seems like a huge obstacle, but than how in the hell did Kim Mulkey get Griner? You don't get much more "family" than Baylor.




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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow Snow View Post
    If Rhoads said anything remotely similar he'd be gutted like a fish on this board... despite the fact that it is no less true for him than it is for Bill.

    I just wanted to point that out for those who weren't keeping score at home.
    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    If rhoads said it now yeah he might get some flak. Itd come off badly. If he said it after a success level comparative to the level Fennelly has had, he'd be fine.
    ^^^^this. CPR saying it with his record would sound like excuse making. CBF saying it sounds like...it's a hurdle we have, but we do our best and I think we've done pretty well despite that.



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Heard him say this on the post-game presser tonight. I appreciate his honesty, and wonder if any other coaches of our women's teams, like CJL, etc. share this view. Also wonder if any men's coaches agree.
    I'd like to have a round table of the coaches and Pollard. Put them on Cyclone TV and have an open forum. Ask why it's so hard, we hear about it (so hard to recruit/compete) in football all of the time, but women's basketball is the first I've heard this.

    I'm pretty sure it comes down to the cold and not much to do in the middle of Iowa, especially during the winter. I know we think our facilities are top notch, but I don't know what anybody else in the conference really has.

    So it would be really interesting to see exactly what these coaches would need to be able to keep up with the Jones'.



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Quote Originally Posted by RayShimley View Post
    It seems like a huge obstacle, but than how in the hell did Kim Mulkey get Griner? You don't get much more "family" than Baylor.
    Brittney Griner says Baylor coach Kim Mulkey told players to keep quiet on sexuality - ESPN



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Yeah, I remember reading that article and just thinking, "What the ****?" Why would you want to play for someone like that. I can't pretend to understand how gay/lesbian players feel though. Maybe they are OK keeping it under the radar and off the front pages, I could certainly understand someone wanting to keep personal things private, but I'd think you'd want that to be your choice, not the coach's.




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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow Snow View Post
    If Rhoads said anything remotely similar he'd be gutted like a fish on this board... despite the fact that it is no less true for him than it is for Bill.

    I just wanted to point that out for those who weren't keeping score at home.

    Football is a different animal imo. In basketball ISU can be much more competitive with the Bigger schools than we have shown in football. Recruiting kids to Ames for football is probably the hardest job in college football.



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    Just watched the video - Fennelly went on to say "this is the most amazing collegiate environment in the country - but it's not for everyone." Talked about how other schools use the agriculture angle - cows, pigs, do they even have indoor plumbing, and then the cold weather - against us.



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    It's magnified in football because more of the talent is concentrated elsewhere vs. basketball. Also, if you pull off one recruiting coup or get one diamond in the rough and you can be a tourney team for years. Plus the, "you can play right away" line of recruiting works better in BBall, because one guy can make such a difference.



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    Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

    I pretty much don't get this comment. We have a winning and well respected program and insane fan support and it's "hard" to recruit here? It's tough for anyone recruiting against the powerhouse schools but it is not like we are in some minor conference or lack in academics.



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