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    One and done, what is your opinion?

    What do you think of one and done players? Is it good or bad for CBB? Do you think a rule needs to be instituted to keep players longer or should we go back to when high schoolers could go straight to the NBA? Just thinking about this after seeing Wiggins, Parker, and Randle dominate last night.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    If the point of intercollegiate athletics is to develop student-athletes, then these guys make a joke out of the whole process. Do you think for a second that a guy like Andrew Wiggins is going the extra mile in the classroom to keep his GPA up, or that Jabari Parker chose Duke due to its strong academic prestige?

    Let them go to the NBA out of high school if they want, but then turn up the heat on schools to get their players graduated. That should be the main goal.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mumbai1986 View Post
    What do you think of one and done players? Is it good or bad for CBB? Do you think a rule needs to be instituted to keep players longer or should we go back to when high schoolers could go straight to the NBA? Just thinking about this after seeing Wiggins, Parker, and Randle dominate last night.
    I personally like it, especially with Hoiberg's recruiting. Could you imagine if Vaughn was debating between all these schools AND the NBA? I know he said he'd go pro if he didn't have to go to college but still, just one more thing to compete with getting the big dogs. One player can do a lot for a program in one year



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    It's absolutely good for college basketball, I don't see how anyone can argue that getting the chance to see guys like Rose, Love, Davis and Wiggins is a bad thing. And I also don't see the NBA ever agreeing to take kids right out of high school again, they have too much of a good thing going here to undo it.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    It's better than the alternatives...it exposes the non-ready players who might have wasted their lives by leaving directly from high school. And there's no reason to force players to stay longer than one year in college. If in one year they've shown they're ready to go, then there's no reason to stop' em.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    I wish you could either tell them to go to the NBA right away, or they have to go to school at least 2 years.


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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    I think kids going straight to the NBA was terrible. Not everyone is LeBron and a lot of them just couldn't handle being instantly rich or the pressure of being a pro athlete.

    I think it's a little disappointing that so many are leaving after one year, but it's better than the alternative.


    The ideal would be to institute the college baseball rules. You can go pro right out of HS but if you do go to school you can't go pro for 3 more years.

    That would also require the NBA to be responsible and not draft kids who aren't ready though, and I'm not sure they would do that. Too many teams are too desperate to find a superstar.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    It's terrible. A mockery of the notion of student-athlete, and it destroys the program continuum, team ball, and school spirit that makes college sports what they are. I would much rather watch ten upperclassmen go at it for a title they really care about than some showboat marking time until the NBA calls his name.

    Make it like baseball. You can go right out of high school but, if you do go to school, you have to stay at least three academic years in college. Entering the draft at 18 and failing to be drafted/being drafted low does not disqualify your amateur status and you could still go play college ball to try to work your way up to it.

    Let the NBA hype/zzzz machine have its pizzazz. Let college ball have college players who actually want to be there.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    Its a good thing. Seriously, think about missing out on seeing some of the talent in college. I for one, would of loved to see LeBron and Kobe in the NCAA even if it was for just one season. Also, some of these kids do take school seriously and create a balance. More so, please keep in mind that even though these players such as Parker, Wiggins, etc. are going to be superstars in the NBA or be high draft picks doesn't mean that they don't want a year to just play basketball in college, try and win a title and be a "normal" kid for one year. These guys are 18 years old and probably want to experience college even if its just for one year.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    If the point of intercollegiate athletics is to develop student-athletes, then these guys make a joke out of the whole process. Do you think for a second that a guy like Andrew Wiggins is going the extra mile in the classroom to keep his GPA up, or that Jabari Parker chose Duke due to its strong academic prestige?

    Let them go to the NBA out of high school if they want, but then turn up the heat on schools to get their players graduated. That should be the main goal.
    Agree. Complete joke. The only reason these guys are playing college basketball is because they have to. I think the NCAA/NBA should follow the baseball rule. You can come to play in college, but you have to stay 3 years. If the NBA doesn't want them year 1, let them play in Europe or in the D-league. Allowing them to play creates much more disparity and reduces competition, as well as interest. Heard John Feinstein (Duke grad) say he doesn't even consider Kyrie Irving, Luol Deng, Elton Brand, etc. Duke guys. Said the teams he is proud of were the Laitner/Hurley/Grant Hill teams.

    Side note is that it would be great to see Calipari in this scenario. Would actually have to recruit rather than have NBA tryouts to determine who this year's 4-5 guys who play in his NBA-prep program are. Saw last night that he said it was "unfair" to Kentucky to have to play good teams like MSU early in the season due to his youth. What a slimeball.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    The one thing I really hate about the one and done situation is the Kentucky syndrome. They recruit basically the top 5 players ever year because they almost always play only one year and are gone.

    That's ridiculous.

    Maybe institute some disincentives to recruiting THAT many one and dones. Right now it doesn't hurt Kentucky's graduation rates if they stay in "good standing" for their one year. Maybe set a limit and have it hit their grad rate if more than 2 or 3 go pro after one year.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    It's the NBA's rule and they have no incentive for changing it. They get a free 1-year audition at the expense of the college game. Straight from HS or 2 years would be my preference.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by isu81 View Post
    Agree. Complete joke. The only reason these guys are playing college basketball is because they have to. I think the NCAA/NBA should follow the baseball rule. You can come to play in college, but you have to stay 3 years. If the NBA doesn't want them year 1, let them play in Europe or in the D-league. Allowing them to play creates much more disparity and reduces competition, as well as interest. Heard John Feinstein (Duke grad) say he doesn't even consider Kyrie Irving, Luol Deng, Elton Brand, etc. Duke guys. Said the teams he is proud of were the Laitner/Hurley/Grant Hill teams.

    Side note is that it would be great to see Calipari in this scenario. Would actually have to recruit rather than have NBA tryouts to determine who this year's 4-5 guys who play in his NBA-prep program are. Saw last night that he said it was "unfair" to Kentucky to have to play good teams like MSU early in the season due to his youth. What a slimeball.
    He trolled a lot of people. I think it's funny how many fell for it. He loved every minute of it.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    It's the NBA's rule and they have no incentive for changing it. They get a free 1-year audition at the expense of the college game. Straight from HS or 2 years would be my preference.
    The NCAA is the best possible marketing tool the NBA has, the one and done rule has been great for the NBA. I don't see any scenario in which they go back to allowing high school kids to go directly to the NBA.



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    Re: One and done, what is your opinion?


    I'm in the camp of make it like baseball. You can go pro, or you can go to school for three years. Or do it like football and don't give an NBA option out of HS and make 3 years mandatory. Its a joke that these guys can take 12 credits of absolute crap classes first semester, not pass a single class second semester and play ball. Who cares if they're academically ineligible after that season, they're goin pro!

    It would be nice if they actually had to pass classes, you know that whole student-athlete thing like every other student-athlete at their school. It's not that hard to pass undergrad classes if you put in a little bit of work.



    I do agree that it's exciting for college basketball to have these talented guys playing at this level and fun to watch.



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