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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    I honestly like what I've seen from SR. He has talent to be a top 3-5 QB in this league. At least before he graduates.

    But i think grant rohach has the potential to be even better. Looks more solid in the pocket.

    To no surprise to anyone on here, it frustrates me how so many cyclone fans on here are ready to abandon our OC, abandon our QBs, etc. We have some nice pieces to work with, and a shot at being pretty good in the next couple years.

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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    I honestly like what I've seen from SR. He has talent to be a top 3-5 QB in this league. At least before he graduates.

    But i think grant rohach has the potential to be even better. Looks more solid in the pocket.

    To no surprise to anyone on here, it frustrates me how so many cyclone fans on here are ready to abandon our OC, abandon our QBs, etc. We have some nice pieces to work with, and a shot at being pretty good in the next couple years.

    It starts and ends with consistency with coaches and players. Building experience and leadership.
    When I think of Mess, I do not think "nice piece."


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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    Looks like GR has the better arm and Sam has better wheels. This is tradeoff at this point. Neither one is setting the world on fire this year. Training for next year.


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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    When I think of Mess, I do not think "nice piece."
    I guess everyone has a right to their own opinions.

    I can't tell you guys how much I'd like to see a fully healthy quarterback playing behind a fully healthy line that's had a chance to gel together...




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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Drive4cy View Post
    I like Sam except for his 3rd down decision making. Takes off and runs too much in situations he has no chance to pick up the yardage and seems too willing to take sacks instead of trying to make a play. I understand you want to take care of the ball and avoid turnovers but you also need to make plays.
    Quote Originally Posted by mitya51 View Post
    I think he showed much better decision making earlier in the season.
    I think this is the strongest evidence that the coaching has failed that position group. I agree entirely that SR seems out of sorts on 3rd down plays. He's become a bit of a hot mess (pun intended) on such plays. But he seemed to be a much better decision-maker/play-maker earlier in his short career. Now he seems to panic- flushes too early only to be tackled short; holds it too long only to be sacked; or throws off target. What happened?



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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    Messingham throwing him under the bus and constant pressure from the defense is what happened. That being said, I still like his play better than Rohach.



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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    Quote Originally Posted by mitya51 View Post
    I think he showed much better decision making earlier in the season.
    I agree. And I blame the coaches for that. They got in his head so he was trying to press and force stuff because of the threat of them pulling him for Rohoch. I pity our QBs . They deserve so much better than the Bush league ******** coaching they recieve.



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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    I don't have specifics examples or data but my impression is that 3rd down play has been crap because the pocket has not been holding for crap on a consistent basis. so if 75% of 3rd and outs come from the weakness of the offensive line we might blame the QB for the 25%. But if you step back and look at the big picture, the QB is not at his best because he doesn't have confidence in his boys- for good reason. Richardson had awesome completion at the beginning of the season. And it wasn't a one-game fluke like Steele Janz.



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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnerclone View Post
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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    He's the best we've got and if healthy and surrounded by good blocking and a coherent game plan would be very good.

    If we're resting him to get him healthy, great.



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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    If we're resting him to get him healthy, great.
    If that's why we were putting Rohach out there it would be great. And if we had rested him earlier in the season to allow him to be back to being healthy for the meat of the conference season that also would have been great. But that would require our offensive coaching to have at least a smidgen of ability. So instead they threw him through a meat grinder and played him hurt for a month, then pulled him once they'd successfully destroyed his confidence and health.



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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    He's the best we've got and if healthy and surrounded by good blocking and a coherent game plan would be very good.

    If we're resting him to get him healthy, great.
    get healthy for what? Our Super Bowl against KU?



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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    I wonder if the staff feels rohach will be ready to take the reins over Richardson next season if they give him experience this year. Maybe they feel rohach is the qb of the future and decided to take our beatings this season to prepare him for next year?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    get healthy for what? Our Super Bowl against KU?
    To me, this year has been about gaining experience. So healthy enough to get a win or two under his belt. Earlier would have been nice.



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    Re: Richardson Should Be QB

    I think that Sam has the talent to be our starter going forward, but I don't think he has played well enough that we shouldn't evaluate other options. In our offense, we need a QB to be great, not just average. Sam has had the opportunity to separate himself from everyone else on the roster, but he hasn't done that yet. Maybe he will with time, or maybe he wont. If the coaches think Rohach and Sam are close, I say we need to give Rohach the same chance Sam has been given. We need the best QB on our roster to be our starter. If that is Sam, fine. If that is Grant, fine.

    Drew Bledsoe was a very talented starting QB for NE, but NE didn't have any real success until his backup got his chance to show what he could do as a starter. Brady didn't beat him out during camp, but he showed that the team played better with him in the game. I am not saying that Grant is the next Brady, but I think we need to see how the team performs with him as the starter before we label Sam as the starter of the future.



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