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    Richardson/Messingham

    I personally think that Richardson is our guy and I feel like most people would agree... That being said do any of you think SR is taking the wrap for Messinghams terrible play calling game in and game out? Hence why Grant is taking over. I smell 1-11.



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Absolutely! Unfortunately neither QB will be successful in this current dumpster fire we have going. Mess is a mess.



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    It's not like SR has lit the world on fire. 2 garbage time TDs in the last 2 games = change, any change, to me.


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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Quote Originally Posted by ZB4CY View Post
    I personally think that Richardson is our guy and I feel like most people would agree... That being said do any of you think SR is taking the wrap for Messinghams terrible play calling game in and game out? Hence why Grant is taking over. I smell 1-11.
    I think about 70% of the offenses issues falls on Mess. Don't get me wrong, I know players need to execute and I know the offensive line has been absolutely awful at times, but a BCS OC should be able to figure out how to work past that.



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Its not just Mess. Its the whole scheme. I grow evermore convinced that although Mess is an incompetent lieutenant, the the responsibility actually belongs to the commander.

    Somebody on this board had a great description of PR as a coach whose strength is motivation. That will not cut it at this level.



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Quote Originally Posted by Land Grant View Post
    Its not just Mess. Its the whole scheme. I grow evermore convinced that although Mess is an incompetent lieutenant, the the responsibility actually belongs to the commander.

    Somebody on this board had a great description of PR as a coach whose strength is motivation. That will not cut it at this level.

    I love CPR, but agreed 100%. See any changes at the end of the year? Not talking Head Coach wise, mainly OC wise



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    I think some of it is on Sam. I think between Sam, WRs and Mess, it's a perfect disaster. The ceiling is higher on Grant, but he seems to be a turnover machine and an inferior runner. I would be fine with a turnover if the qbs showed a bit more fearless attitude in the passing game like taking shots down field and maybe throwing more over the top throws down the sidelines.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZB4CY View Post
    I love CPR, but agreed 100%. See any changes at the end of the year? Not talking Head Coach wise, mainly OC wise
    Agreed, and it wouldn't surprise me if CPR has already decided to change OCs but is waiting till year end to publically state it. They do still have games to play, it would be counterproductive to tear down the OC when you still have to prepare for games.



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Rhoads really needs to just find someone with experience and success as a BCS level OC and then give them full control. The offense is now yours, ..., for better or worse. The good executives know or figure out what they are not good at, get the right people, and stay the hell out of the way. I'm also a little tired of him repetitively saying that you can't get pressure on QB's in this league because they pass too quickly. Freaking just watch a few games, especially ours, and tell me that is still true. Also, why do NFL teams blitz and mix up their schemes so much?



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Sam isn't executing, he's not the only one though. Who's job is it to get the players to execute? I have never coached but I think the number one rule as a leader of young men is poor play is never a young players fault.



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Or they mainly just pass too quickly on us? Young defense..I do look forward to them in the coming years.



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Quote Originally Posted by mtowncyclone13 View Post
    It's not like SR has lit the world on fire. 2 garbage time TDs in the last 2 games = change, any change, to me.
    Conference ranks for Sam:
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    Almost 2:1 TD:INT ratio when a good chunk of the other starters are 1:1 or worse
    #1 in sacks taken (currently at 21)

    2013 Big 12 College Football Individual Statistics Leaders for Passing - ESPN

    Sam has a chance to take quite a few school records for QBs if he doesn't have to run for his life. The kid definitely has some things to work on but it's hard to take those lessons to heart when you're constantly hearing footsteps


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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Here's where I disagree. Incompetent coaching, especially desperate incompetent coaching, can do irrevocable damage to this team in these last few weeks.


    Quote Originally Posted by State43 View Post
    Agreed, and it wouldn't surprise me if CPR has already decided to change OCs but is waiting till year end to publically state it. They do still have games to play, it would be counterproductive to tear down the OC when you still have to prepare for games.



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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Our QB's have been below average for years. The blame falls on the inability to recruit or the inability to teach.


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    Re: Richardson/Messingham

    Richardson is our quarterback from everything I have seen and its his team.



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