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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Rohach has a higher ceiling than Richardson. Richardson has been meh all season.


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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by djcubby View Post
    Wow, nothing like throwing Grant to the wolves. Letting him have his first start againt probably the top passing defense in the big12, with no help from running backs, and a patchwork O-line. Got get 'em, killer. Or go get killed, one of the two.

    Might as well have Lanning and Hodge take snaps with the 1's this week, as well. Why not get them all prepared for the future demoralization of playing in this offense. Mess can even throw them under the bus at the next interview, as well, so they can get used to that.
    Liked for this part, specifically.

    Get those guys watching Sportscenter so they know what they are supposed to be doing.



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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by djcubby View Post
    Perception??? That's not the word I would use.

    Right, but generally you don't just wave your weenie right out in the air...you try and hide your incompetence...this just openly looks like they're admitting that the best fix they have is to hang it on SR's shoulders...but hey, they've been doing that all season.

    Again, I'm not saying the players are without fault, but the problems with this offense are much bigger than whatever QB is stuck out there to run for his life and then get chided for poor completion percentage when he's worried how soon he's going to get trucked from behind and the receivers are also dropping balls.



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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Trey Scott ‏@All_Cyclones 39s Reverse. Rhoads says there's still a chance Sam Richardson will start. Depends on practice.

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    Coach Rhoads on starting QB: Right now I don't know who could be the starter. It could be Sam who runs out or it could be Grant.
    Yeah! Try gameplanning for that mind **** Patterson!! Boo Yah!!



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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by djcubby View Post
    Perception??? That's not the word I would use.
    Perception and definition rhyme at least.



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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
    So the Sam Richardson Era as a starter finishes 1-10?


    At least spice up the games a bit. On the jumbo tron show Sam and Grant playing paper rock scissors each series to see who goes in.
    I take it the loser has to go in then.


    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Trey Scott ‏@All_Cyclones 39s Reverse. Rhoads says there's still a chance Sam Richardson will start. Depends on practice.

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    Coach Rhoads on starting QB: Right now I don't know who could be the starter. It could be Sam who runs out or it could be Grant.
    Quote Originally Posted by PabloDiablo View Post
    Yeah! Try gameplanning for that mind **** Patterson!! Boo Yah!!

    Or...I don't know who's going to start because Courtney and I are no longer on speaking terms once I told him he could finish out the season and then he gone.




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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclophile1 View Post
    a self-fulfilling death spiral of suckitude
    This would be a great band name!



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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonez7 View Post
    Rohach has a higher ceiling than Richardson. Richardson has been meh all season.
    He certainly has the potential to have a lot more turnovers, that's for sure.

    I'm not disagreeing with you on this point, just again, it's another one of those terms that seems to get thrown around here a lot. I remember that was the big plus of Steele Jantz, but similarly, he couldn't hold on to the ball. I think the biggest problem is that we've had a couple of QBs with a decent ceiling ahead of them, but this staff just doesn't seem to be the one to develop them. They certainly couldn't take the turnover out of Steele, so until they show me otherwise, I'm going to assume we've seen the best out of Rohach we are going to see, until we find someone who can coach a QB up.

    Let's not forget, all the talk was on Richardson not that long ago. "Wait until he starts, he's the guy of the future." Then he starts off with a breakout game. And that was probably his best game to date. I still think a lot of this is on the guys coaching these QBs. No one gets better.



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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Any move is terrible at this point. When you are playing this bad with an empty cupboard, any decision will be ugly.


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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    lord...why cannot the season be over already and the firing of staff members commence?!?

    WHY?!?!


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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by bos View Post
    This. I dont think its a slap at Richardson at all. Give the guy some time to heal up. He wont ever get that chance with nagging injuries if you continue to throw him out there. This season is wasted. Heal the broken.
    Saving Sam for KU game.


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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Is it lack of talent at QB or is it gameplan/scheme/coaching that is the reason for our ineptness at QB?

    I'm starting to think its the latter. We saw glimpses from Jantz, Barnett, and Sam but ultimately all of them started playing poorly and lost their starting job. It's almost a carbon copy for each. That tells me its coaching and development, not the player.
    At this point, it sounds highly plausible.


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    Re: Grant Rohach to start vs. TCU

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Is it lack of talent at QB or is it gameplan/scheme/coaching that is the reason for our ineptness at QB?

    I'm starting to think its the latter. We saw glimpses from Jantz, Barnett, and Sam but ultimately all of them started playing poorly and lost their starting job. It's almost a carbon copy for each. That tells me its coaching and development, not the player.
    The odds are that it isn't every single QB we throw out there. Coaching is a common factor for all of them.


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