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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    Building for next year? This season is so bad, my excitement for next year is already dead, and we are only midway through this season. Football is dead, we are a basketball school. Kansas is about to break a three year conference losing streak in our house.



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    I don't know that firing Mess fixes the biggest problem with this offense: consistency from the person taking snaps. Until we have Big 12 level quarterbacks we will not have a good offense. It's that simple.



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    It's painfully obvious Mess is inept as an OC. Even those trying to calm the angry "fire everyone" mob surely will admit that. Yes, CPR has publicly expressed his unwillingness to make midseason staff changes, but at this point does he not HAVE to make a drastic midseason change to prove to entire fan base and program donors that he actually cares about improving and has the cojones to do whatever it takes? If he waits out the year and we put this poor product on the field every week from here on out with the same coaching staff, I feel very sorry for the backlash Pollard & Co will face.



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    I don't know that firing Mess fixes the biggest problem with this offense: consistency from the person taking snaps. Until we have Big 12 level quarterbacks we will not have a good offense. It's that simple.
    how about an OC that is good enough for the big 12


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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    Quote Originally Posted by Daserop View Post
    how about an OC that is good enough for the big 12
    Urban Meyer can't fix this train wreck. What was the last good offense you saw without a good signal caller?



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    Urban Meyer can't fix this train wreck. What was the last good offense you saw without a good signal caller?
    Minnesota Vikings last year. (but I get your point)


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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    Urban Meyer can't fix this train wreck. What was the last good offense you saw without a good signal caller?
    Then how about the QB coach actually coach the QB's up instead of throwing them under the bus in every press conference?

    When was the last time we actually had a QB get better as the year went on?



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    Urban Meyer can't fix this train wreck. What was the last good offense you saw without a good signal caller?
    SR would be a B12 QB with a competent OC and QB coach.



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    I will not buy tickets next year if messingham is not fired.



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    SR should have never been pulled from the game.



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    No points yet against a below average KState team? The defense has played well enough, but the offense has been terrible. I agree that it is time for Mess to go NOW. Keeping him the rest of the season isn't going to affect the team negatively, and could be very positive. We should then promote Klenakis and see what he can do. If he turns it around, then he can have the job next year. If not, then we open it up, with Klenakis still having a shot at it.



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    Kevin Johns Bio - Indiana University Official Athletic Site

    This guy should be hired. Kevin Johns. Coaches in a prolific offense. Played QB in college. Coaches QBs at Indiana. Recruiting coordinator at Northwestern, which means he knows the Midwest which is where many think we should recruit more in.



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

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    Minnesota Vikings last year. (but I get your point)
    The Vikings offense last year was not what I would call "good." Adrian Peterson was a horse but outside him that offense was below average. 14th in the NFL in scoring would also be considered pretty average (which is pathetic when you have the best player in the NFL).



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    There's now simply no reason we shouldn't have an interim OC next week. We should have a completely new offensive scheme, it can't be worse.

    We should just split out Bundrage and pack it in with extra backs and two TEs. None of our other receivers are a threat and the QB can't get it to them anyway, might as well maximize what we have.



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    Re: Firing Messingham mid season would light a spark on this team

    Why do our QB's when they do throw a pass, stand in the pocket and continuously stare at the primary receiver waiting for him to get open and the Defense just converges like a pack of wolves.



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