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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    This thread is gold. OP should ban himself.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    Oh my gosh, someone missed on a recruit, drop football immediately!

    JB had talent. Enough to beat multiple ranked opponents. Just not consistent enough to win regularly.
    He may have been more consistent if the team had been more consistent.


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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Nobody pushed Tom Herman out of Ames. He got an offer to coach at Ohio State and he took it. Does anyone really blame him? He'll be a head coach in two or three years time because of it too.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamJGray View Post
    It was me. I pushed Herman out.
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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by SCarolinaCy View Post
    Who was responsible........... for pushing Tom Herman out? Anyone big enuf to admit to it?


    Big Mistake.
    Apart from being really stupid, the premise of this post is fundamentally flawed. It's not about Herman and it's not even about Mess...it's about PR hiring an OC that can win in this league.


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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    He may have been more consistent if the team had been more consistent.
    True. My main point was that he was NOT a fantastically terrible QB who never should have been offered in the first place.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Think of it this way, if Herman got pushed out and ended up in the same job at Ohio State, that is the greatest achievement in falling upwards since....well since Gene Chizik and Lane Kiffin.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    No, it wasn't a big mistake. The big mistake was promoting his lacky to run the same offense with similar results, when we could have went and found someone who actually knows what they are doing.

    I have seen a couple tOSU games this year and the only difference between what they are doing and what ISU is doing is that they have the athletes to overcome the plays being called on the field. Iowa did a decent job holding them in check until Miller would scramble for big yards. Miller makes that offense look a lot better than it really is.

    It's not a bad offense, but one that seems to require highly talented players at every position.

    I still think it was a good move, he wasn't a good fit here, when we were all saying, "It can't get much worse." we were right. The problem was, They decided to go with the one option that mande, "Much Worse" possible.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by PabloDiablo View Post
    How I have to wonder what Mess will say now that Nealy was on sportscenter. What's the next excuse?

    Also, I believe the common thought was that Herman's contract was just not renewed by JP and he was available to Meyer. Meyer may have seen someone with a ton of potential who he could mentor under his wing to become a very good OC. All we know is he was good at Rice and has been good at OSU but wasn't that great here.
    It sounds like what you (and others) are implying is that hiring a new, stud OC isn't going to be a magic cure to all ills . . .

    COME ON, MAN!!!



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