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    Who was responsible..........

    Who was responsible........... for pushing Tom Herman out? Anyone big enuf to admit to it?


    Big Mistake.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    All I am going to say is I'm sorry. One Way. Forward.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonin View Post
    All I am going to say is I'm sorry. One Way. Forward.
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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    "fire herman" was a common theme at the time, or are you forgetting?

    although at least he didn't blame the players for not making enough "sportscenter plays".



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Why was it a big mistake? When Herman was at ISU, the offense was nationally ranked 103, 97, and 90 in scoring. Last year, ISU was ranked 87, and this year ISU is ranked 86.


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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    By pushed out you mean Tom got a call from Urban Meyer and saw an opportunity to advance his career under one of the greatest offensive minds in football? That kind of pushed out?

    And it's not like his offenses were really doing anything anyway



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by SCarolinaCy View Post
    Who was responsible........... for pushing Tom Herman out? Anyone big enuf to admit to it?


    Big Mistake.
    His first hand picked QB couldn't win the starting job at Illinois State. His teams were averaging about the same PPG as the current squad as well. What are we whining about? Let me know when we get a good offensive coordinator and he leaves, and then we can whine. Herman barely mustered enough points to beat Iowa.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    His first hand picked QB couldn't win the starting job at Illinois State. His teams were averaging about the same PPG as the current squad as well. What are we whining about? Let me know when we get a good offensive coordinator and he leaves, and then we can whine. Herman barely mustered enough points to beat Iowa.
    Yes because if he could chose ANYONE to come to ISU he would have chosen Barnett. He took Barnett because at the time he was the best candidate that would come to ISU at the time. He also brought in Sam Richardson his last year, who was good enough to beat out JB, so that should count for something.

    I'm not saying Herman was an awesome OC, but he wasn't terrible either. I have a feeling he was pretty frustrated with some of the talent he had to work with and I guarantee he is VERY happy with where he's at right now.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    Yes because if he could chose ANYONE to come to ISU he would have chosen Barnett. He took Barnett because at the time he was the best candidate that would come to ISU at the time. He also brought in Sam Richardson his last year, who was good enough to beat out JB, so that should count for something.

    I'm not saying Herman was an awesome OC, but he wasn't terrible either. I have a feeling he was pretty frustrated with some of the talent he had to work with and I guarantee he is VERY happy with where he's at right now.
    If he was the best ISU could get, but couldn't start on a middling FCS team, we might as well drop football. There is no reason ISU shouldn't have a better QB than UNI division schools.

    Call me crazy if I think ISU should have been able to recruit better.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    If he was the best ISU could get, but couldn't start on a middling FCS team, we might as well drop football. There is no reason ISU shouldn't have a better QB than UNI division schools.

    Call me crazy if I think ISU should have been able to recruit better.
    Oh my gosh, someone missed on a recruit, drop football immediately!

    JB had talent. Enough to beat multiple ranked opponents. Just not consistent enough to win regularly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    Oh my gosh, someone missed on a recruit, drop football immediately!

    JB had talent. Enough to beat multiple ranked opponents. Just not consistent enough to win regularly.
    He may have been more consistent if the team had been more consistent.


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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Tom Herman has done what as an offensive coordinator? During the Northwestern/OSU game Herbstreit was saying Meyer calls most of the plays.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Tom Herman has done what as an offensive coordinator? During the Northwestern/OSU game Herbstreit was saying Meyer calls most of the plays.
    Doesn't matter. He has a chance at getting a HC gig in the near future regardless, because of his connections to Meyer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    Doesn't matter. He has a chance at getting a HC gig in the near future regardless, because of his connections to Meyer.
    That doesnt make him a good coordinator or HC.



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    Re: Who was responsible..........

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    That doesnt make him a good coordinator or HC.
    when did did he say it did?



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