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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    I would evaluate a S&C coach based how how tough physically the players are. We have been abused up front by guys half our players weight, telling me pound for pound even UNI has stronger men, physically, up front.
    It's a good thing you are an accountant and not a S&C Coach Talent evaluator. ;)



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    I see our linemen as undersized, but I don't perceive our team wearing out physically during games(mentally yes). So the issue, if there is one, would be in the size of the players not conditioning IMO. So you have to recruit bigger Linemen and Linebackers or give them time to fill out. Where we have size I think we compete well. I would think that the overall size has more to do with genetics than training or everyone would be big.


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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by JUKEBOX View Post
    I haven't been too impressed. Our team is plagued with injuries and seem to be less physical than every squad we play.

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    Awesome evaluation. I love how willy nilly people are with other people's reputations and jobs. Farniok and others getting rolled up on is a conditioning thing? Richardson's ankle injury isn't even football related. Shocker that West and Wimberly - a combined 11 feet tall and 350 pounds would get dinged up. And you know what - I don't know if he's doing a good job or not, but I do know that it certainly isn't my place to "evaluate" it. But you keep doing what you are clearly good at - throwing gas on our players, coaches, training techniques and everything else - from behind the curtain like every great chicken **** does.



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatllDoCy View Post
    I see our linemen as undersized, but I don't perceive our team wearing out physically during games(mentally yes). So the issue, if there is one, would be in the size of the players not conditioning IMO. So you have to recruit bigger Linemen and Linebackers or give them time to fill out. Where we have size I think we compete well. I would think that the overall size has more to do with genetics than training or everyone would be big.
    Someone posted that we have 9 offensive lineman that average 6'5" and 299 pounds. They have pretty good size strictly based on the measurements.



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Physicality is as much coaching as training.
    Agree. It would be a lot less frustrating if the problem actually was a matter of getting pushed around. Our blocking sucks, but more so because of teaching and scheme. Hell, people were complaining about our Olines back when we had KO, Lamaak, Haughton, Hicks, Stephens, etc.



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by kberyldial View Post
    Awesome evaluation. I love how willy nilly people are with other people's reputations and jobs. Farniok and others getting rolled up on is a conditioning thing? Richardson's ankle injury isn't even football related. Shocker that West and Wimberly - a combined 11 feet tall and 350 pounds would get dinged up. And you know what - I don't know if he's doing a good job or not, but I do know that it certainly isn't my place to "evaluate" it. But you keep doing what you are clearly good at - throwing gas on our players, coaches, training techniques and everything else - from behind the curtain like every great chicken **** does.
    No offense, but when a team is 1-6 and just got crushed for the 2nd week in a row... fans are going to speculate and ask questions because it is obvious that there are problems. When a team is ranked 101st in total offense and 115th in total defense... fans are going to speculate and ask questions because it is obvious there are problems.

    What am I missing?



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78 View Post
    No offense, but when a team is 1-6 and just got crushed for the 2nd week in a row... fans are going to speculate and ask questions because it is obvious that there are problems. When a team is ranked 101st in total offense and 115th in total defense... fans are going to speculate and ask questions because it is obvious there are problems.

    What am I missing?
    Rational solutions?



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    I am shocked at the free rein some of you have been given to relentlessly trash ISU coaches, players and recruits. For a website that exploits ISU athletics for financial gain. I find it offensive that relentless negative and destructive behavior is tolerated.

    I realize that some of you won't change, and you will continue to deny the consequences of your acts. This site does, however, have the choice of whether you are allowed to do it here. I really wish they would take a different stance.



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78 View Post
    What am I missing?
    No offense taken. I just don't care for this type of OP because I think it's chicken ****. The OP didn't start an evaluation thread, they threw another hand grenade in the general direction of the football team.

    There is no comparing our training to anyone else. Have any of you guys ever met Yancy? Sat with him and discussed philosophy? Been to one of his sessions with the guys? Ever even been in the new building?

    The OP doesn't know the details of the injuries. Yet he infers they are all training related. I don't like being 1-6 either. I also don't think it means everyone is incompetent.



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBearClone View Post
    Rational solutions?
    Sadly... I don't think there are any rational solutions to fix the problems this season. The statistics really show just how big of a train wreck this season has become.

    ISU team ranks

    Total offense 101st
    Rushing offense 96th
    Passing offense 78th
    Sacks allowed 119th
    Scoring offense 85th
    1st down offense 110th
    3rd down conversion offense 96th

    Total defense 115th
    Rushing defense 110th
    Passing yards allowed 101st
    Scoring defense 116th
    1st down defense 101st
    3rd down conversion defense 91st



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Let's all blame yancy and his $25,000 treadmills for weakening everybody's mcl's!


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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    I have a friend who is a grad assistant in Health and Human Performance who has worked with Yancy, and at a other D1 level schools. He is adamant that Yancy is the best S&C coach he's worked with or seen. For someone like me who lifted in HS but doesn't know exactly what is going on vs my friend who knows what he is watching and has the credibility to evaluate, I will trust my friend's judgement over a scmuck saying injuries mean Yancy is bad. /facepalm

    EDIT: Just watched that video.. Can you seriously think Yancy doesn't know what he is doing? Look at what Josh Lenz did compared to the before and after. Holy ****! If that's what "average" and "below average" players look like after they come out, what do you think 3-4-5 star talent would look like?

    EDIT EDIT: Finished watching the video. Anyone who thinks McKnight doesn't know what he is doing is a ******* idiot.


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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by isufbcurt View Post
    It's a good thing you are an accountant and not a S&C Coach Talent evaluator. ;)
    No kidding! I was just posting what I have heard from opposing fans, but I agree I am better with numbers, you could probably juggle both professions better than most accountants!



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78 View Post
    Sadly... I don't think there are any rational solutions to fix the problems this season. The statistics really show just how big of a train wreck this season has become.

    ISU team ranks

    Total offense 101st
    Rushing offense 96th
    Passing offense 78th
    Sacks allowed 119th
    Scoring offense 85th
    1st down offense 110th
    3rd down conversion offense 96th

    Total defense 115th
    Rushing defense 110th
    Passing yards allowed 101st
    Scoring defense 116th
    1st down defense 101st
    3rd down conversion defense 91st

    It's rare that you see a team so awful on both sides of the ball.



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    Re: Are we far enough along to evaluate Yancy McKnight?

    Quote Originally Posted by fenton06 View Post
    I have a friend who is a grad assistant in Health and Human Performance who has worked with Yancy, and at a other D1 level schools. He is adamant that Yancy is the best S&C coach he's worked with or seen. For someone like me who lifted in HS but doesn't know exactly what is going on vs my friend who knows what he is watching and has the credibility to evaluate, I will trust my friend's judgement over a scmuck saying injuries mean Yancy is bad. /facepalm



    EDIT: Just watched that video.. Can you seriously think Yancy doesn't know what he is doing? Look at what Josh Lenz did compared to the before and after. Holy ****! If that's what "average" and "below average" players look like after they come out, what do you think 3-4-5 star talent would look like?

    EDIT EDIT: Finished watching the video. Anyone who thinks McKnight doesn't know what he is doing is a ******* idiot.
    I think a lot of the issues with the OL getting pushed is the pad level they play at. If you watch some of the fall camp drills with the OL, the coach is constantly talking to the players about their bad level, and that they are not getting low enough. Saw a lot of this in the UNI game, where their shorter DL would get a lot lower and bend the OL back, basically neutralizing their size advantage by cutting their body into two areas rather than one force.



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