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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by DandyCyclone View Post
    This move will happen sooner than people think.
    That's a pretty cryptic statement. Do you know more than you are saying?




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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Dang, I was hoping for something along the lines of "Peyton Manning retiring from the NFL to become OC at ISU."



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by aauummm View Post
    That's a pretty cryptic statement. Do you know more than you are saying?
    According to the author of the article, "this move will likely happen sometime in the future."



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by DandyCyclone View Post
    Charlie Weis may get fired by Kansas after two years. He's an offensive coach who can probably be hired for cheap since he would be getting paid by Kansas and maybe Notre Dame still. I'd be okay with hiring Weis as the next Offensive Coordinator but I see him going back to the NFL.
    Even with a solid run game last year, KU was horrible on offense. NO THANKS!
    I'm not sure but I think he's even relinquished some of the offensive playcalling duties this year. I also like Sam but he aint Tom Brady.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    If we to hire Booger Weis I'm done with football



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Cy View Post
    Even with a solid run game last year, KU was horrible on offense. NO THANKS!
    I'm not sure but I think he's even relinquished some of the offensive playcalling duties this year. I also like Sam but he aint Tom Brady.
    Charile Weis made Matt Cassel look good with the Chiefs. I'd take him in a second. We should just have both him and Mangino come in and put them both on a treadmill. Last one standing gets the job. Shouldn't take more than a minute or two.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Hmmmmm. Dana Holgorsen on the hot seat at WVU? Former OC for Tech and a high flying Houston offense. Hmmmmm.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Weis a few weeks back gave up calling the offense. Has his OL coach call run game and WR coach call pass game.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OPButtrey View Post
    Charile Weis made Matt Cassel look good with the Chiefs. I'd take him in a second. We should just have both him and Mangino come in and put them both on a treadmill. Last one standing gets the job. Shouldn't take more than a minute or two.
    That would have to be one sturdy treadmill.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by djcubby View Post
    That would have to be one sturdy treadmill.
    Maybe big enough for an airplane?


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    I think there was some scuttle of Wally retiring after this year before the season even started and we knew what kind of debacle we were facing. I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen. When he got hired, I don't think anyone expected anything more than 5 years any how.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    So what are we thinking will happen at the end of the year?

    Mess - Gone (Reason: incompetence)
    Wally - Gone (Reason: old)

    Does the new OC clean house and bring in his own people?
    Is the new DC Shane, or do we hire someone with more experience?



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    I know Mess gets **** on all day on CF (and I'm guilty as charged for contributing), but why wouldn't we expect a change?

    Any other team in the country would have some type of shake up coming given the results on the field. Texas did it a few games in, and here we are, "waiting" to see if Mess can pull something together. It is time for some type of shake-up. I know a budget affects who we could have quite a bit, but I'm not so sure a friendly hire for an unproven is worth the risk. If there is a shake up, then it must be someone with something on their resume. Mess had not called plays since 2004 when he was at Upper Iowa. He may be a "hell of a position coach," but not he is not cut out to coordinate an entire offense to the caliber we need.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Wouldn't surprise me if we have 2 new coordinators next season. I think Shane would be a fine DC and it'd be fun to see if the style changed at all or if he was just a younger Wizard.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    If both our coordinators simultaneously leave it's going to be a long year next year too.



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