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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

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    I agree. I dont see any way that JP would let CPR hold on to Mess (maybe others). As the AD he is in a position to force things to happen if staying the same will result in fan apathy. I dont see any way that he could expect to sellout season tickets again without changes.

    Im sure its been discussed a thousand times but if you know that you are going to let the OC go at the end of the year then why do you let him keep calling the plays?

    We already had Herman eff the Pin Stripe Bowl up because "he wasnt focused". Messingham might be slow but he has to realize that he is out, what incentive does he have to give a #@$% now?
    The next job. If he outright tanked the rest of his time here, word gets out in the coaching community (potentially) that he's not really all in with the teams he coaches, and that probably doesn't help his case to be employed anywhere.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    I don't see a single thing in that article other than obvious things that are repeatedly discussed or really obvious things that would be a surprise to no one. "We think Pat Haden is likely doing due diligence on several candidates and will move quickly once the season ends to fill the position." That is some kind of insight.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

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    Dan McCarney is/was a defensive coach

    Jamie's not Jerry Jones. CPR controls his own staff.
    Meh, I believe that if for some reason that CPR was adimant on sticking with coach XYZ and JP knew that if this were to happen ticket sales would drop from sellout numbers back to 40-45k then I have no doubt that JP would step in.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by CykoAGR View Post
    I agree. I dont see any way that JP would let CPR hold on to Mess (maybe others). As the AD he is in a position to force things to happen if staying the same will result in fan apathy. I dont see any way that he could expect to sellout season tickets again without changes.

    Im sure its been discussed a thousand times but if you know that you are going to let the OC go at the end of the year then why do you let him keep calling the plays?

    We already had Herman eff the Pin Stripe Bowl up because "he wasnt focused". Messingham might be slow but he has to realize that he is out, what incentive does he have to give a #@$% now?
    Because he might want a job somewhere else? His effort level isn't something I'd be worried about.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

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    The next job. If he outright tanked the rest of his time here, word gets out in the coaching community (potentially) that he's not really all in with the teams he coaches, and that probably doesn't help his case to be employed anywhere.

    True. Not sure he's gonna get a look at anything but position coach level anyway but I see your point. Not going to "go the extra mile" though.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Makes sense. I mean, have you seen Florida Atlantic's defense? Turrrrible.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by CykoAGR View Post
    I agree. I dont see any way that JP would let CPR hold on to Mess (maybe others). As the AD he is in a position to force things to happen if staying the same will result in fan apathy. I dont see any way that he could expect to sellout season tickets again without changes.

    Im sure its been discussed a thousand times but if you know that you are going to let the OC go at the end of the year then why do you let him keep calling the plays?

    We already had Herman eff the Pin Stripe Bowl up because "he wasnt focused". Messingham might be slow but he has to realize that he is out, what incentive does he have to give a #@$% now?
    Improving his ability to find a job after he is fired here?



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by CykoAGR View Post
    True. Not sure he's gonna get a look at anything but position coach level anyway but I see your point. Not going to "go the extra mile" though.
    No way it's something higher than position coach. That ship has sailed.

    In terms of the "extra mile," maybe we're better off if he doesn't. Maybe not, but maybe.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Honestly isn't what they said about ISU pretty obvious? I mean, if there aren't changes in some positions after this debacle of a season there needs to be a full fledged revolt.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFB View Post
    Charlie Weis may get fired by Kansas after two years. He's an offensive coach who can probably be hired for cheap since he would be getting paid by Kansas and maybe Notre Dame still. I'd be okay with hiring Weis as the next Offensive Coordinator but I see him going back to the NFL.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Mess promoted to No Texas HC by Peter's Principle next year to replace Danny Mac who then comes as DC to replace retiring Wally and Shane becomes our unencumbered and well respected OC?


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bret44 View Post
    Part of me thinks that Wally may hang it up after this year and then the reins would be passed to Shane.
    This move will happen sooner than people think.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    So now we're questioning Messingham's professionalism, character and commitment. Lovely display.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    This site is pretty credible, a very interesting one liner.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by CykoAGR View Post
    Meh, I believe that if for some reason that CPR was adimant on sticking with coach XYZ and JP knew that if this were to happen ticket sales would drop from sellout numbers back to 40-45k then I have no doubt that JP would step in.
    I agree Jamie might give him an action plan but I think CPR is still going to hire who he wants. I don't think Jamie would pull a Jerry Jones and hire his whole staff for him is kinda what I meant there.



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