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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Danny Mac hanging it up.



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    Danny Mac coming to be our OC.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Palmer View Post
    Danny Mac coming to be our OC.
    I thought that before even seeing your post. I would take that.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by redrocker View Post
    I thought that before even seeing your post. I would take that.
    really? I think he's a really good defensive coach but I wouldn't want him anywhere near my offensive playbook.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by redrocker View Post
    I thought that before even seeing your post. I would take that.
    He has never coached offense in his illustrious career. Hell when he was d coordinator at UW, Alvarez would not let him make play calls for the unit he was in charge of.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    I would expect staff changes. I hate that people are asking for changes midseason, but if the staff next year looks like this year I'd be questioning whether Jamie is doing his job.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    I would expect staff changes. I hate that people are asking for changes midseason, but if the staff next year looks like this year I'd be questioning whether Jamie is doing his job.

    I agree. I dont see any way that JP would let CPR hold on to Mess (maybe others). As the AD he is in a position to force things to happen if staying the same will result in fan apathy. I dont see any way that he could expect to sellout season tickets again without changes.

    Im sure its been discussed a thousand times but if you know that you are going to let the OC go at the end of the year then why do you let him keep calling the plays?

    We already had Herman eff the Pin Stripe Bowl up because "he wasnt focused". Messingham might be slow but he has to realize that he is out, what incentive does he have to give a #@$% now?


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by CykoAGR View Post
    I agree. I dont see any way that JP would let CPR hold on to Mess (maybe others). As the AD he is in a position to force things to happen if staying the same will result in fan apathy. I dont see any way that he could expect to sellout season tickets again without changes.

    Im sure its been discussed a thousand times but if you know that you are going to let the OC go at the end of the year then why do you let him keep calling the plays?

    We already had Herman eff the Pin Stripe Bowl up because "he wasnt focused". Messingham might be slow but he has to realize that he is out, what incentive does he have to give a #@$% now?
    The next job. If he outright tanked the rest of his time here, word gets out in the coaching community (potentially) that he's not really all in with the teams he coaches, and that probably doesn't help his case to be employed anywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    The next job. If he outright tanked the rest of his time here, word gets out in the coaching community (potentially) that he's not really all in with the teams he coaches, and that probably doesn't help his case to be employed anywhere.

    True. Not sure he's gonna get a look at anything but position coach level anyway but I see your point. Not going to "go the extra mile" though.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by CykoAGR View Post
    True. Not sure he's gonna get a look at anything but position coach level anyway but I see your point. Not going to "go the extra mile" though.
    No way it's something higher than position coach. That ship has sailed.

    In terms of the "extra mile," maybe we're better off if he doesn't. Maybe not, but maybe.


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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by CykoAGR View Post
    I agree. I dont see any way that JP would let CPR hold on to Mess (maybe others). As the AD he is in a position to force things to happen if staying the same will result in fan apathy. I dont see any way that he could expect to sellout season tickets again without changes.

    Im sure its been discussed a thousand times but if you know that you are going to let the OC go at the end of the year then why do you let him keep calling the plays?

    We already had Herman eff the Pin Stripe Bowl up because "he wasnt focused". Messingham might be slow but he has to realize that he is out, what incentive does he have to give a #@$% now?
    Because he might want a job somewhere else? His effort level isn't something I'd be worried about.



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Quote Originally Posted by CykoAGR View Post
    I agree. I dont see any way that JP would let CPR hold on to Mess (maybe others). As the AD he is in a position to force things to happen if staying the same will result in fan apathy. I dont see any way that he could expect to sellout season tickets again without changes.

    Im sure its been discussed a thousand times but if you know that you are going to let the OC go at the end of the year then why do you let him keep calling the plays?

    We already had Herman eff the Pin Stripe Bowl up because "he wasnt focused". Messingham might be slow but he has to realize that he is out, what incentive does he have to give a #@$% now?
    Improving his ability to find a job after he is fired here?



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    Re: Take this for what it's worth but...

    Expect staff changes at Ames, Dan McCarney to hang it up. Obviously this means D-Mac will be on our staff next year. Get ready those who wanted a new OC.

    In all seriousness, I'd take him as defensive line coach, but I doubt that will happen.

    My guess is Rhoads will dismiss Mess and maybe Bleil at the end of the season. Don't really see him making any changes on defense.



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