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    Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    People where saying at the beginning of the season that Gary Pinkel was on the hot seat I never got it. That guy didn't forget how to coach in 2012. He wasn't a worse coach in 2012 than he was in 2009. Paul Rhoads and his staff aren't a worse staff now than they were last year.

    Anyway, last year Missouri won 2 SEC games. They beat 0-8 Kentucky and 1-7 Tennesse in OT (Tenn only win was against Kentucky). People were questioning Pinkel and his ability to coach in the SEC. Look at them this year and what does it tell you? When you have that many players get hurt in a year (especially on the offensive line), you simply aren't going to be successful. These guys are healthy now and their depth is better off for playing guys last year that wouldn't have normally. They are a 4th quarter collapse away from being undefeated and coasting to the SEC championship.

    I read this article 2012 Injuries will make Missouri's 2013 offensive line better - Rock M Nation last year about how the injuries in 2012 would help the 2013 line for Missouri. It sure looks like it has. Why can't the same happen for Iowa State next year? Why can't this disastrous season turn into a positive in the future? You are getting young guys valuable playing experience that they wouldn't have normally received. Next year you are a year older, healthier, and you have more playing depth than you would have normally had.

    Injuries are killing this football team. Mentally it has to be getting to them as well. But it doesn't mean the future of this program is in worse shape now that it was 2 years ago. I'm still of the belief that it's in better shape and we will see it next year with added experience and more importantlyÖ.health!

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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    Mizzou has had consistent offensive coaching for a long time. That is the huge difference.


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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    Mizzou has had consistent coaching for a long time.
    Fixed.

    It took Gary Pinkel to his 7th year at Missouri before he really put them on top. They were only 2 games over .500 his first 6 years there. They stuck with him there and they built up depth.

    Point is though that injuries can decimate most teams. Iowa last year is a good example. 4 wins and they were lucky to win that many. Their offensive line had some huge injuries. This year they will win 7 and go to a bowl game.


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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    There are lots of reasons we are having the season we are having, injuries certainly a big part of it. At Iowa state we have such small room for error. We don't have the depth to sustain success through injury riddled seasons.

    Things could be a lot worse. I hope our offensive line coach is the real deal, it gives me hope that this years youth and inexperience will at least improve and become serviceable next season.



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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    sigh...


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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    I agree Adam but they have had their share of injuries this year including the loss of Franklin and are in the drivers seat. The killer is we were bad when the first team was in there, beaten by UNI and Iowa.



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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    There are lots of reasons we are having the season we are having, injuries certainly a big part of it. At Iowa state we have such small room for error. We don't have the depth to sustain success through injury riddled seasons.

    Things could be a lot worse. I hope our offensive line coach is the real deal, it gives me hope that this years youth and inexperience will at least improve and become serviceable next season.
    For the first time all year I felt good about the line yesterday. 7th different line in 7 games and they pass blocked really well


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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    I agree Adam but they have had their share of injuries this year including the loss of Franklin and are in the drivers seat. The killer is we were bad when the first team was in there, beaten by UNI and Iowa.
    No excuse to ever lose to UNI. Ever. So yes I agree. That's a killer.


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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    ISU has always had an issue with depth. ISU starters have always been average, however, if the backups need to play its bad news bears.


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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    Mizzou was 5-7 last season and their 'blowout' (20 points) losses were to #7 Georgia, @ #7 South Carolina, ~30 points to #1 Alabama, and @ #9 TaMU. They also lost to #7 Florida by a TD in the swamp (14-7), by 4 points to a 9 win Vandy team and by 4 points to an 8 win Syracuse team.

    Sorry, Adam, I just don't see the similarity.



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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    I agree Adam but they have had their share of injuries this year including the loss of Franklin and are in the drivers seat. The killer is we were bad when the first team was in there, beaten by UNI and Iowa.
    Injuries cost us the iowa game. I firmly believe that. Several third stringers on the line and sam was moving like my grandma on that ankle.



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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    Excuses are for losers. You're ready.


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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    The more likely reason we suck is that our offensive coaches suck and are incapable of scoring more than 20 points a game.

    Our defensive coaches are better schemers but can't recruit, and the defense sucks this year because of it.



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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    Missouri also has a competent OC and QB, even their backup is head and shoulders above anyone on this roster. They were nowhere this bad in their "down" year.



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    Re: Think injuries are an excuse? Check out Missouri

    Quote Originally Posted by F5cy View Post
    Mizzou was 5-7 last season and their 'blowout' (20 points) losses were to #7 Georgia, @ #7 South Carolina, ~30 points to #1 Alabama, and @ #9 TaMU. They also lost to #7 Florida by a TD in the swamp (14-7), by 4 points to a 9 win Vandy team and by 4 points to an 8 win Syracuse team.

    Sorry, Adam, I just don't see the similarity.
    If you think Adam is saying we're going to be a Top 10 team next year, then you're not going to.



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