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    Mangino and the new offense

    I am very excited to see what we look like when we take the field in the spring. I saw these quotes in a recent article about Mangino and it got me thinking.

    In the back of my mind, theres always that thought. But I can tell you this: I really want to get Iowa States offense rolling, he said. If Im not a head coach again, my life wont be incomplete. Ive been very, very fortunate and thankful for all the experiences in coaching, and in life, that Ive had.
    If it happens, it happens. Im prepared for it. Im a better football coach today than I was the day I walked out the door at the University of Kansas.


    Those quotes really jumped out at me. He talked about how he traveled to different colleges and pro teams to see what their offenses were doing, so you know he is still sharp. Now this probably isn't the case but its possible. What if, in his time off, Mangino stumbled onto a new "style" of offense that will totally confuse defenses this yr (read option, spread, west coach, triple option, etc...). I know this is incredibly far fetched but he is an offensive genius who gets the most out of what he has. He may have noticed a new way to exploit defenses in his time off. Just something I thought would be cool.

    Next thing is that you can tell he really wants to succeed here so if he does leave at some point, he will at least have this offense producing before he is gone. I love this hire and I think he totally changes the outlook of next season if we can put a respectable defense on the field.




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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    I think he is the best bet to get ISU offense rolling. The "Bear" is a beast no matter where he goes. He has proven time and again that he not only adapts to different styles, programs, and coaches, but he is still a bear when it comes to coaching offenses. I was so excited when I watched CPR presser on hiring him. I know he will earn every penny of his paycheck. I have been a Bear fan from many years ago. He has what ISU has needed. He has the Big 12 experience and ability to adapt and change that ISU been lacking. I am excited for the next 8 months to fly-by.... and I am a little sick of this snow and cold up here... so come on August 30th!!



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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    Ditto



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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    Yep, best person we could have hired. If I was an Offensive recruit, I would be super pumped up about the Cyclones future!


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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    I'm stoked, but my expectations are tempered. Many of us were excited about this brand new pistol offense being implemented here, and it was a complete disaster. I think our previous OC/staff didn't adapt well to their personnel. I think Mangino is much more experienced in this aspect of coaching and that is what has me looking forward to next season and beyond.



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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    I hope it's the kind of offense that plays to the strength of the personnel and puts a lot of points on the board. You know, basically the opposite of last season.



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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    Count me as someone who is trying, not successfully, to keep excitement and expectations in check. If we round out the staff with QB and OL coaches of the quality Mangino hired in his run at KU, we could see this offense finally help us win games. Some of the tools are there. Guys like Bibbs and Bundrage have already proven to be legitimate upper-level go-to guys and I think Wimberly can make plays similar type plays. Jarvis has extra yard making ability. Some of the other (young) guys and newcomers should at least be our traditional filler guys. If just one of them makes the jump like Bundrage did, it becomes a match-up problem for the defense, which is something that has not happened in decades at ISU. Even the positions where we need improvement (QB and OL) will have experience, which is needed when looking for improvement.
    It is too bad Brun was not a medical hardship guy, as I would love to see what Mangino could do with two good receiving TEs.

    In regards to tempering expectations, how much improvement did people think hiring Coach K would really have? There were some immediate systemic red-flags about how exactly he was going to help. How many successful staffs have the OC needing a consultant? We were still trying to implement the original (late 20008) plan with a staff and roster that was not made for it. Speaking for myself, I was pleased with the hire because I had hopes Coach K would in practice be a Co-OC with a move to OC and a new system likely. At the worst having someone that did not need Cliff Notes would help, but more in 2014 than 2013. In the end we struggled to pick up an orthogonal blocking scheme and lacked of a singular plan on offense.


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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    Gotta see it on the field before I believe anything related to ISU Football.

    That goes for Offense OR Defense.

    Hoping for the best!



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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    Gotta see it on the field before I believe anything related to ISU Football.

    That goes for Offense OR Defense.

    Hoping for the best!
    No chance Mangino is hired as the next OC, am I right?



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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    If Mangino has noticeable success running the offense at Iowa State, he won't be here long - he will get another shot at a head coaching gig.


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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    No chance Mangino is hired as the next OC, am I right?
    What point are you trying to make? I'm saying, regardless of coach, I want to see results on the field first before jumping on the hype train.



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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    If Mangino has noticeable success running the offense at Iowa State, he won't be here long - he will get another shot at a head coaching gig.
    This is a new perspective on the hire.



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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    This is a new perspective on the hire.
    I hope he does get another shot at head coach - it means he had a great few years here.


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    Re: Mangino and the new offense

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    If Mangino has noticeable success running the offense at Iowa State, he won't be here long - he will get another shot at a head coaching gig.
    I hope we win 10 games before that happens. We have a brutal schedule again next year. We could easily go 4-8 but still have mangino hired away.

    Really, it will be 2015 before we can expect our offense to take off. Patience. ..



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    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    I hope he does get another shot at head coach - it means he had a great few years here.
    Just like with chizik



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