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    I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    Dont know is listening to KXnO, but he is calling out Paul Rhoads' accountability and how we as Cyclone fans continue to accept all the excuses out of him and the staff. Like I mentioned yesterday, I do believe that the fanbase is shifting to putting this on Rhoads so I do think it is happenening but may not be to to point it needs to be? I do believe, just from on here and in bars/restraunts/tailgates the accountability is turning to Rhoads and it needs to be. You can blame Messingham, you can blame Richardson, you can blame the the headset guy or whoever but they all work under Rhoads. Not all the time I agree with Miller but he makes some good points.



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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    I think people are holding Rhoads accountable, just not all of us have the "fire everyone" mentality.



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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    I think people are holding Rhoads accountable, just not all of us have the "fire everyone" mentality.
    well put. There is a huge middle ground between blind support and fire everyone. That's where most people are.


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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    until CPR speaks to this, we'll keep getting more ******. He knows there is frustration and he knows with whom, but to not even address it is pathetic. Even a "I know there is talk about about Coordinators but I am keeping them through this year" would give us something.


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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    fire everyone.



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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    Like a public flogging?



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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    well put. There is a huge middle ground between blind support and fire everyone. That's where most people are.
    Is it supporting firing everyone who is blind? Because that is where I am.


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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    Like a public flogging?
    $5 and you get to throw a football at Mess from 5 yards away.

    That'll be a good start to the SEZ.



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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by mtowncyclone13 View Post
    until CPR speaks to this, we'll keep getting more ******. He knows there is frustration and he knows with whom, but to not even address it is pathetic. Even a "I know there is talk about about Coordinators but I am keeping them through this year" would give us something.
    What the hell would that even accomplish? (Besides driving Mess to be even more conservative, further demoralizing offensive players, royally screwing things up with any kids Mess is the primary recruiter for, encouraging fans/media to pull more of this crap the next time they decide a coach isn't up to snuff, etc.)



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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by Bret44 View Post
    Is it supporting firing everyone who is blind? Because that is where I am.
    you heartless bastard. Blind people need jobs too.


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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    He isn't asking for Rhoads to be fired he is asking for him to be accountable.



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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    What the hell would that even accomplish? (Besides driving Mess to be even more conservative, further demoralizing offensive players, royally screwing things up with any kids Mess is the primary recruiter for, encouraging fans/media to pull more of this crap the next time they decide a coach isn't up to snuff, etc.)
    You must not work in the field of public relations. When you address something head on and up front people usually ***** and whine but let it go. When you try and avoid the situation and respond with "no comment" they get even more mad and the anger keeps building. I am always of the up-front mentality.


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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    This a dumb argument. First, from where I sit/read most fans are upset. I will be upset if there aren't major Offensive coaching changes made at the end of the year. But I don't think that they have to be made now and I still think that Rhoads is the right person for the job.

    But if you don't....what does Miller want you to do? Storm Jack Trice? Picket the next game? I suspect that Jamie and Paul are getting plenty of emails and phone calls from stupid *** fans already.



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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    He isn't asking for Rhoads to be fired he is asking for him to be accountable.
    I think if you ask Iowa State fans most would say Rhoads is responsible for the situation on offense and it needs to be solved or at least significantly better by next season.

    Is that holding him accountable enough or do I need to email Pollard, and CC Ken Miller so he knows about it?



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    Re: I agree with Ken Miller, Rhoads needs to be accountable

    I try to be level-headed. I honestly don't think there is a coach who will raise ISU to anything more than an 8-win-on-occasion team. I believe a good goal every year for us is making a bowl game. I thinking winning a bowl game or having an 8 win season is a great accomplishment here.

    I have defended Rhoads because I think the program under him is probably about as good as it is going to get. I think recruiting is getting better. I think we are generally beat the teams we are supposed to beat and are competitive with the upper teams in the conference. I think the national perception of ISU is that we are a tough game. If Rhoads can't do it here, I am honestly not sure it can be done.

    All that being said, this weekend's ***-kicking have left me with a "meh" attitude on Rhoads. Want to fire him? Meh. Want to keep him? Meh. In our history, we have had MUCH worse teams than the current one and we have played much better teams that Baylor. And we have never, ever been whooped like we were this weekend.

    I thought the team owed fans an apology for the bowl debacle against Tulsa (when we supported them in droves). And I think they owe fans one for the loss this weekend. There is no excuse for this team to get beat worse than any team we have ever had. None.



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