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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    If this does hit 1-11, and that's a very strong possibility, nobody on the staff should be considered safe. You just don't do 1-11.


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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    I'm a little drunk but I'm just gonna say it. At some point CPR is responsible for allowing our coordinators to be ****.
    I will say promoting Mess has proven to be a huge mistake and that is on CPR. It seemed like a questionable move at the time that most of this board disapproved of and it has unfortunately played out as I suspected it might. Has set the program back 2 years. If he continues to pull in the recruits committed so far this year then CPR will get a mulligan, but he can't miss on the new OC.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    The biggest problem with firing everybody is we may have a great class coming in. If we fire everybody, some of our top recruits may leave.


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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    Messingham needs to go. In this game, Wally's defense has been fine from a coaching standpoint but Broomfield misses an INT and it paints a whole different picture than if he makes it.

    This offense is the worst thing I've ever watched. Just horribly coached, mostly by the QB coach. I can give the Oline a slight break because they have been actually pretty decent and they are so ****ed up.


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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    The team looks dejected out there. It's hard to not see that there is something fundamentally wrong within the program.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    Quote Originally Posted by cmjh10 View Post
    The biggest problem with firing everybody is we may have a great class coming in. If we fire everybody, some of our top recruits may leave.
    Great compared to what? We are still only going to have a class that ranks about 1 position from the bottom in the Big 12. Get Gooch and Clinkscales and maybe we have a playable class, but we are not out recruiting anyone.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

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    The biggest problem with firing everybody is we may have a great class coming in. If we fire everybody, some of our top recruits may leave.
    Yep

    Lazard would go. He said that himself.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    I'd be ok losing Lazard if it meant not having to watch this.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    I'm a little drunk but I'm just gonna say it. At some point CPR is responsible for allowing our coordinators to be ****.
    I am not quite at the "fire them all" level, but anyone that thinks this season is anywhere close to acceptable needs to go, including fans.


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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    Because of our history, we usually put up with some really bad football far too long. I really don't have the answers as to whether CPR should be fired, but it's possible that putting up with losing football is part of why our history has been so poor. Chicken or the egg I guess.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    Because of our history, we usually put up with some really bad football far too long. I really don't have the answers as to whether CPR should be fired, but it's possible that putting up with losing football is part of why our history has been so poor. Chicken or the egg I guess.
    I've started to come around to this way of thinking. Demanding results doesn't mean you will get them, but if you are going to be ok with where we are in year 5, why even bother.

    We tried not putting up with bad football when we fired Mac in 06, but then we ended up with the disaster that was Chizik. I was thinking about this scenario the other night....if Rhoads was hired to replace Mac instead of Chizik, and had the exact same record as he has had in 5 years, I think he would be fired by now. His seat would have been getting hot after the Memphis embarrassment, and losing to UNI or the 70 points against Baylor would have been the last straw. But 5-19 made us happy to lose only 7 games a year.

    I don't know that I want Rhoads fired, but the refusal to go for it on 4th and shorts today makes me feel like he's giving up. And there might not be anywhere else in the country where a coach can survive a 1-11 season five years in.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    I'm convinced after listening to JP on the call in show last Monday that Rhoads will NOT be fired. No way. He brought up how many successful head coaches had some really horrible years before turning their programs around. Plus.... JP can't afford to fire Rhoads yet either.

    However, everyone else involved in this program should at least be on the table, including Yancy. This is crazy bad football right now that we are all witnessing. There's no excuse for playing this poorly, even with the injuries IMO.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    Clean house, section 2 tickets up for grabs.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    Fire someone. Fire the equipment manager for all I care, just show me you're taking this seriously and are trying to fix this. Because losing by 30+ to this KSU team is the most embarrassing loss of the year, and that includes the Baylor game.



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    Re: Fire all the coaches.

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    I'm convinced after listening to JP on the call in show last Monday that Rhoads will NOT be fired. No way. He brought up how many successful head coaches had some really horrible years before turning their programs around. Plus.... JP can't afford to fire Rhoads yet either.

    However, everyone else involved in this program should at least be on the table, including Yancy. This is crazy bad football right now that we are all witnessing. There's no excuse for playing this poorly, even with the injuries IMO.
    Dude, he just got a 10 year extension. You have any idea how much money it would take to fire him, and then to go out and fine someone that would want to come to ISU (not an easy task) and then find the money to pay them (even harder). I will bet 1 million dollars that Rhoads will not be fired, and I am 100% serious on this bet if anyone wants to take me up on it. HE. WILL. NOT. BE. FIRED.


    Yep, this thread has just been pwned.

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