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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Wouldn't be that surprised if Tech covers here. I don't want to be a debbie downer, but that line seems fair to me.



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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    We always matchup well against the Tech offense, turnover machine is what kept the game out of reach last year. He even fumbled by not even being touched.
    They were +2 in TOs last year. But they more than doubled our yardage and ran about 20 more plays. I remember thinking that they were significantly better than us in that game.



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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Vegas now adds in 7 points for the refs. So really without them it would be a 9 point spread (which feels about right)



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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    I wonder what the spread would be if we were 2-2 with a win against Texas. You have to think it would make a difference, and even though we "won" that game, I will be taking ISU and the points here.



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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Idk, my gut says let down, hope you are wrong gut you *******.


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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Considering how our secondary made Case McCoy look like Colt throwing the ball and add in how much Tech likes to throw the ball with a better passer then Case. Yea, I can see this one turning into a shootout.

    Do we have the offensive chops to keep up?


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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkStar View Post
    Considering how our secondary made Case McCoy look like Colt throwing the ball and add in how much Tech likes to throw the ball with a better passer then Case. Yea, I can see this one turning into a shootout.

    Do we have the offensive chops to keep up?
    nope. mainly because TT defense is a lot better than tulsa or texas


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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by Daserop View Post
    nope. mainly because TT defense is a lot better than tulsa or texas
    Tulsa yes. Texas no.


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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by Daserop View Post
    nope. mainly because TT defense is a lot better than tulsa or texas
    Remember how last year Tech had the best defense in the country for the first few games? And then fell apart once it hit conference play? Last year they play cupcakes in the non-con and that made them look good. This year they played cupcakes in the non-con. And that made them look good.



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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Remember how last year Tech had the best defense in the country for the first few games? And then fell apart once it hit conference play? Last year they play cupcakes in the non-con and that made them look good. This year they played cupcakes in the non-con. And that made them look good.
    So why did ISU not do well against the cupcakes they play. You guys use the same argument every year. I bet TX State would give ISU all y'all
    Could handle. They beat Wyoming who has a top 20 offense. SMU offense is better than any out of confrence offense ISU faced. So why could ISU only pull one out of confrence win? Freaking Iowa is all y'all have to hang your hat on to say you played a better out of confrence line up, an you lost. So if we beat up on only cupcakes, what is your offense going to do to exploit our defense? How are you going to stop our offense? Or is your team just going to come out talk trash about out of confrence games?



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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherTechguy View Post
    So why did ISU not do well against the cupcakes they play. You guys use the same argument every year. I bet TX State would give ISU all y'all
    Could handle. They beat Wyoming who has a top 20 offense. SMU offense is better than any out of confrence offense ISU faced. So why could ISU only pull one out of confrence win? Freaking Iowa is all y'all have to hang your hat on to say you played a better out of confrence line up, an you lost. So if we beat up on only cupcakes, what is your offense going to do to exploit our defense? How are you going to stop our offense? Or is your team just going to come out talk trash about out of confrence games?



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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by Daserop View Post
    nope. mainly because TT defense is a lot better than tulsa or texas
    Texas has a terrible defense. No doubt in my mind that Texas Tech is better.



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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherTechguy View Post
    So why did ISU not do well against the cupcakes they play. You guys use the same argument every year. I bet TX State would give ISU all y'all
    Could handle. They beat Wyoming who has a top 20 offense. SMU offense is better than any out of confrence offense ISU faced. So why could ISU only pull one out of confrence win? Freaking Iowa is all y'all have to hang your hat on to say you played a better out of confrence line up, an you lost. So if we beat up on only cupcakes, what is your offense going to do to exploit our defense? How are you going to stop our offense? Or is your team just going to come out talk trash about out of confrence games?
    This guy is on to something. We are NOT a good team. And those that say we have a history of stopping the Tech offense are basing this off the now Cincinnati coaching regime. What is our record vs Leach? Because Kingsbury runs that same system.



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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherTechguy View Post
    So why did ISU not do well against the cupcakes they play. You guys use the same argument every year. I bet TX State would give ISU all y'all
    Could handle. They beat Wyoming who has a top 20 offense. SMU offense is better than any out of confrence offense ISU faced. So why could ISU only pull one out of confrence win? Freaking Iowa is all y'all have to hang your hat on to say you played a better out of confrence line up, an you lost. So if we beat up on only cupcakes, what is your offense going to do to exploit our defense? How are you going to stop our offense? Or is your team just going to come out talk trash about out of confrence games?
    The vaunted Texas Tech offense has actually only really killed a team once, Kansas.

    Against SMU they scored 41. SMU's opponents have average 43.2 points. Below average.

    Against TCU they scored 20. TCU's opponents have averaged 22.2. Below average.

    Against Texas State they scored 33. Texas State's opponents have average 24. So Tech was a whopping 9 points above average. However, if you remove Texas State's 28-3 win over Prarie View A&M that average jumps to 29.25. Meaning Texas Tech scored only a field goal more than other FBS teams have.

    Against Kansas Tech scored 54. Kansas's opponents have averaged 25.3. So good job. You beat up on Kansas.


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    Re: Texas Tech opens as 16 point favorite

    I think that TT is going to be a big challenge for Wally and his staff to defend, but I also think that the ISU offense will be able to move the ball against the TT defense better than last year. Turning the ball over like last year will not be acceptable, and does not seem to be the trend this year. TT does a lot of gambling on defense, and the Clones are going to have to attack that by getting separation and completing passes over the middle.

    I do not want to see ISU throwing WR screens against 9 men in the box the rest of the season.....



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