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    Re: CPR ...and some stats

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan View Post
    I never said that I do not enjoy watching the team, but they play to win games and not to beef up the box score. That is the whole point of the game. Do you think any the players feel any better about losing Thursday night when they look at the stat sheet?
    I understand what you're saying and I agreed about other stats being meaningless, relatively speaking. Show me where I am arguing for stats being important. All I was saying is that Ws and Ls are not what it's all about. Yes, the point of practically any game is to win. However, most teams don't expect to go undefeated through a season, and ISU is no exception. Knowing that not every game is going to be won, there are things a team hopes to see. Namely, getting better and better each week. Sometimes that improvement shows up on stat sheets and sometimes it doesn't. All I did was question the assumption that it's ALL ABOUT Ws and Ls...nothing more, nothing less.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FanatiClone View Post
    Read again, I didn't predict for next year, it was for 2015.
    And I stand by it.
    Classic Iowa State fan thinking right there.



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    Football is just a stupid game. Who cares who has the better football team. It's just a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyArob View Post
    Classic Iowa State fan thinking right there.
    Actually, there are two classic lines of thought in regards to ISU fans. You pointed out one. The other being that we perpetually suck and will never get over the hump. I probably need not ask where you fit in



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    Re: CPR ...and some stats

    My take on this:

    All hail Wally



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    Re: CPR ...and some stats

    Quote Originally Posted by FanatiClone View Post
    Actually, there are two classic lines of thought in regards to ISU fans. You pointed out one. The other being that we perpetually suck and will never get over the hump. I probably need not ask where you fit in
    Dang, I should have used a jimlad there.



    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Football is just a stupid game. Who cares who has the better football team. It's just a game.

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    Re: CPR ...and some stats

    Guys... we've lost three games... by 8 points, 6 points, and 1 point. That despite how horrifically we have played at times. I'd actually argue that were we to get to re-start the season with these SAME players there is a good chance we are 4-0 right now.

    Does anybody doubt we've figured out a few things about our young personnel? We had the wrong guys playing at a few positions to start the year. We've made adjustments and one could say we actually did win the Texas game.

    If we are sitting at 2-2 now, with a win over Texas, how are attitudes changed amongst the fans? It's a matter of perception. We don't "suck" THIS year... let alone are we going to suck next.



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    Re: CPR ...and some stats

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    Dang, I should have used a jimlad there.
    A bit much? Sorry, a little edgy since Thursday evening.



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    Re: CPR ...and some stats

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan View Post
    No, it is all about wins. You play the game to win, not to pad the stat sheet. Fans pay money to watch their team beat the opponent, not to see if the tailback runs for more yards than he did in the last game. Standings are determined by wins and losses, not quarterback rating or field goal percentage.

    It is all about wins.
    Agreed, but with such a young team it is all about improvement. I'm not saying we should flush this season away, but if these young guys keep improving then we really have something to look forward to in the next couple of years.


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