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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    For anyone agreeing with the op, you can check your fan card at the ******* door. It was an amazing play at the end, and we were robbed. If you are not shook up and your heart/stomach/mind feel normal, get the **** out.



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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    I can look back and see that there were several things that "cost us the game". It's crazy to think it was one thing over all others. With that said, I had a feeling of dread when on 2nd and 1 at UT's 3, we run Wimberly up the middle. So let me add to the list of things that contributed to the loss....personnel choice. With all the success that Woody has had in short yardage situations, why not use him? He's over 50 pounds heavier than Wimberly. Texas had great penetration on the play and swallowed AW up in the process of him losing two yards. Woody has great burst combined with strength and a low center of gravity, as we all know. He may not have picked up the 1st but he most likely would've gotten back to the line of scrimmage. 3rd and 1 would've been much more manageable. Give it to Woody again. He'd have gotten the yard imo. Just another thing, in our control, that may have cost us the game.



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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    Quote Originally Posted by Rural View Post
    I've seen this in football for fifty years.

    I absoulutely disagree with kicking the last field goal based on the score and time combination.

    Up three, inside the five, go for it on fourth down. You're holding all the cards, play them.
    Using that metaphor I'd look at it like this. They went all in with four clubs and a heart and the refs said it was a flush. We could have been more aggressive and up-raised on the last pot but we knew we had the stronger hand and didn't push it, then they won on ********. We could have been more aggressive but that doesn't change that we deserved to win if there hadn't been outside (ref) interference.



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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    Quote Originally Posted by cycfan1 View Post
    You have no clue how stopping the hail Mary would have affected the rest of the game. That is just speculation
    Agree.

    As terrible as that drive was (75 yards in 33 seconds? Really?), there were so many other moments throughout the game that might have swung it the other way, it's pointless to choose one alternate timeline.



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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    Quote Originally Posted by BigJCy View Post
    That and it's 2nd @ 1 inside the 5 and we can't get the 1st down and have to kick the FG to only go up 6. Then of course the numerous P.I. penalties.
    I seriously hate kicking the ball to go up six. Absolutely loathe it. The only way to lose the game is to give up a touchdown in either scenario. Go for it on 4th and slam the door shut or make McCoy go 95 yards for the win.



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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    Yup, and they could have called the holding on the UT line all night, we could have come back and taken the lead. And we could have come back and caused a fumble at the end of the game to win it. One play doesn't make a game, I'll admit that. It's the ******** all night that wears a team down.

    I'll agree 100% that the hail mary should have never been allowed, but after seeing what you saw tonight, do you really think they'd have let us win, without ISU going up by 20 or so and UT just flat out not being able to come back?



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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    Quote Originally Posted by FanatiClone View Post
    I can look back and see that there were several things that "cost us the game". It's crazy to think it was one thing over all others. With that said, I had a feeling of dread when on 2nd and 1 at UT's 3, we run Wimberly up the middle. So let me add to the list of things that contributed to the loss....personnel choice. With all the success that Woody has had in short yardage situations, why not use him? He's over 50 pounds heavier than Wimberly. Texas had great penetration on the play and swallowed AW up in the process of him losing two yards. Woody has great burst combined with strength and a low center of gravity, as we all know. He may not have picked up the 1st but he most likely would've gotten back to the line of scrimmage. 3rd and 1 would've been much more manageable. Give it to Woody again. He'd have gotten the yard imo. Just another thing, in our control, that may have cost us the game.
    I had the same thought. 7 days ago, Woody was our short yardage back. If we were gearing up for a short yardage play (or two, or three), why not give it to our short yardage guy?



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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    Quote Originally Posted by LutherBlue View Post
    I had the same thought. 7 days ago, Woody was our short yardage back. If we were gearing up for a short yardage play (or two, or three), why not give it to our short yardage guy?
    I have no damn clue. Woody was 3 for 3 last week in goal line situations. We've seen him ram through walls and easily break arm tackles for several years now. Why fix what isn't broken? It was clearly Woody time.

    not it taking anything away from AW. He is THE guy whose hands I want the ball in 20-25 times a game.


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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    ********. You sit in front of the 85+ players that poured their heart and soul out on that field tonight and tell me again that they did not deserve to win that game. Give me a ******* break.


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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    Without reading any more than the title, clearly this thread was started by a UT fan.




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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymeus View Post
    Screw-job by the refs or not, it would have never gotten to that point if we just bat-down the hail mary at the end of the 1st half.
    I really hate this attitude. HATE IT. Every single team playing every single game can make more plays than they do. Those are the facts. If Texas had made more plays they would have never been behind.

    Could we have won the game despite the refs? Of course. If the refs would have done their freaking job would we have won the game, despite our mistakes? Yes.

    I don't know what it is with Iowa State fans and having to act like we have some stupid sports street cred, but it is annoying as hell.



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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    The idea that we have to beat both the other team and the refs for us to deserve a win is ludicrous.


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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    Also stopping in here to say that although a point can be made that if ISU had done X, Y, or Z or LMNOP with effing rainbows flying overhead, this team won this game*

    *with the exception of the blown fumble call

    Like someone else said...could you say that to this team's face? If so, I hope you never get a chance to lead people.

    Contests (sports, battles, games) are not about being perfect, otherwise no one would ever do it. Contests are about doing enough to prevail. To say that a play at the end of the first half is the reason this team lost this game is mind-numbingly stupid if you really understand the concepts of life and contests. If you take those 7 points off the scoreboard, we win, sure. But life, and contests are about the total picture. Can you improvise, adapt, overcome? THIS TEAM DID THAT (for that mistake, and any other yahbutwhatif's you can throw out there). They led by 6 with a minute to go, and they took the ball away from the other team in a fashion that in any scenario other than a safety on the ensuing play, means they win the game.

    On the flip side, the missed call happened in a fashion that was correctable (the mistakes by the ref's are not intended to be a major part of the contest, if avoidable, that's why they have review), directly led to Texas leading the contest, and occurred at a time in the contest where improvising/adapting/overcoming was nearly impossible.

    TL:DR version: Shut up, you're a moron.



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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    the whining about the officials by most people amazes me. ISU scores a touchdown to take a 2 possession lead, nobody talks about the possible fumble. Leaving it to a possible ending like what happened tonight is what ISU should have avoided doing. Kick the FG and trust the defense to make a stop. Letting Texas get inside the red zone in itself should not have happened.Maybe it's because I'm a Broncos fan so I get it when during the game Denver doesn't let up on the gas pedal until they are up by 3 scores with 5 minutes left? I guess watching the Denver-Giants game where Denver was getting PI calls on 4 straight plays unwarranted but had a 3 score lead so it didn't matter is why I feel the way I do about the ISU game. The game is 4 quarters long, what you do in the first quarter has an affect on the game in the fourth quarter, don't understand why people don't get that.The threatening of refs is also ridiculous that was going on in the message board after the game. I understand you're ****** off, but keep that **** off the site. That's what 5-year olds do.


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    Re: We did not deserve to win

    I tried the logical, reasoned approach, apparently it didn't work for cycash, so....





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