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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Lets recall every play of the game and say we should have done something different because we would have won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Because Texas HAS to score the TD.
    Exactly. Really the end of the conversation.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    The previous 4 Texas drives were 2 punts and 2 fumbles and almost no yardage gained, AND we actually forced what should have been a fumble on the game winning drive. Easily the right call, anyone that thinks otherwise is playing too much NCAA 14.
    Exactly. So what's the risk in giving them the ball on the five yard line when the upside is you score a touchdown and seal the game? They have to drive down the field and will be willing to settle for a field goal if they are able to drive.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Exactly. So what's the risk in giving them the ball on the five yard line when the upside is you score a touchdown and seal the game? They have to drive down the field and will be willing to settle for a field goal if they are able to drive.
    Doesn't matter where they get it. 6 point lead LARGER than 3 point lead at that point.


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    The previous 4 Texas drives were 2 punts and 2 fumbles and almost no yardage gained, AND we actually forced what should have been a fumble on the game winning drive. Easily the right call, anyone that thinks otherwise is playing too much NCAA 14.
    It has nothing to do with ncaa 14, it's math. One of you stat nerds could calculate the exact odds if you wanted but from reading the advanced stats guys at football outsiders and on grantland I'm pretty confident going for it was the correct play call as far as expected averages go.

    Again though, 95% of coaches would have kicked the fieldgoal because it's the safe route in terms of media criticism.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Eh, I can see both sides. I didn't have a problem with the call though.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    It has nothing to do with ncaa 14, it's math. One of you stat nerds could calculate the exact odds if you wanted but from reading the advanced stats guys at football outsiders and on grantland I'm pretty confident going for it was the correct play call as far as expected averages go.

    Again though, 95% of coaches would have kicked the fieldgoal because it's the safe route in terms of media criticism.
    95% of coaches kick the field goal because they understand the odds in football, and also do not expect their team to allow a late drive for 7.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUpadre View Post
    Doesn't matter where they get it. 6 point lead LARGER than 3 point lead at that point.
    And 6 is less than 7. So it doesn't help.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by St810s View Post
    Honestly, what are better odds? ISU making a field goal or ISU getting 3 yards? I'm really not sure....
    Exactly my thoughts. I don't think ill ever trust our kicking game, and it made me really nervous to think it might come down to a 50+ kick to win.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Exactly. So what's the risk in giving them the ball on the five yard line when the upside is you score a touchdown and seal the game? They have to drive down the field and will be willing to settle for a field goal if they are able to drive.
    Because it's going to be harder to keep them out of field goal range than it is to keep them out of the endzone, it sounds like you would rather us play for overtime? I'd rather put our defense in a position to do what it had done the entire 4th quarter for a chance to win us the ballgame rather than for a chance to save overtime.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    It has nothing to do with ncaa 14, it's math. One of you stat nerds could calculate the exact odds if you wanted but from reading the advanced stats guys at football outsiders and on grantland I'm pretty confident going for it was the correct play call as far as expected averages go.

    Again though, 95% of coaches would have kicked the fieldgoal because it's the safe route in terms of media criticism.
    Coaches are not thinking of criticism at that point. They are thinking 6 > 3 at that point. It really is, that simple. And, I know the grantland story. It didn't do a good job of taking into account time of game and momentum because Barnwell doesn't believe in MO.


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    Because it's going to be harder to keep them out of field goal range than it is to keep them out of the endzone, it sounds like you would rather us play for overtime? I'd rather put our defense in a position to do what it had done the entire 4th quarter for a chance to win us the ballgame rather than for a chance to save overtime.
    Going for it would be playing to win and settling for likely OT if it doesn't work. Instead we settled for praying we don't lose.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUpadre View Post
    Coaches are not thinking of criticism at that point. They are thinking 6 > 3 at that point. It really is, that simple. And, I know the grantland story. It didn't do a good job of taking into account time of game and momentum because Barnwell doesn't believe in MO.
    6<7



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Going for it would be playing to win and settling for likely OT if it doesn't work. Instead we settled for praying we don't lose.
    Setting for OT doesn't sound like playing to win. Going up 6 and trusting defense (even though it didn't work) is playing to win.


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    The mistake was not being able to get a first down with a 2nd and 1 on their 5 yd line. Once it got to 4th down we had to kick the FG.

    I've never understood in that situation when you have 2 plays to get one yard why you don't just QB sneak it 2 times in a row if needed. It just takes too long to hike it to the QB, turn around, and hand it to the RB 4 yds behind the line of scrimmage IMO. Don't mess around. Just have Richardson sneak it twice if you have to.
    This too, crossed my mind. I still don't understand why isu always has to line up in thre pistole/spread no matter the situation



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