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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Well, it's a dumb thread anyway. If Rhoads had gone for it and hadn't converted, this thread would be titled "Why did we go for it instead of kicking the field goal?"
    I wouldn't be. I would always rather go down being aggressive and playing to win rather than playing not to lose and getting bitten in the ***.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by St810s View Post
    This. They get 4 downs to go down there and score a touchdown down 6. Or they get complacent and just kick for overtime with the 3 downs.
    Or, your defense stops them and it doesn't matter!


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones122 View Post
    I wouldn't be. I would always rather go down being aggressive and playing to win rather than playing not to lose and getting bitten in the ***.
    I didn't realize scoring points was "playing not to lose".


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyballz View Post
    Just as dumb was the decision not to let them score after the PI call. You'd have over a minute and 2 TO's to get in FG range. There's the problem with a defensive minded head coach, hopefully he learns from this.
    Except after the PI call we did get the turnover when George stripped the ball. I realize the replay official was too much of a pansy to overturn that, but everybody who saw the replay knows the truth. That is exactly what replay is for, and it's yet another kick in ISU's groin that the Big XII doesn't have the cojones to make the right call there.

    So in actuality (just not in the view of the zebras) the defense did hold, kept Texas from scoring, and forced that turnover after the PI in the end zone, which I think is a better call than letting Texas score and hoping we can drive into FG range and then actually hit a game-winning FG. Have you seen Iowa State's kicking game? Like, forever?



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Heck no, it was a good call to go for 3.

    I'll take a 6pt lead and 75-yards to go for a win vs a 3pt lead (if we don't score TD) and about 55 yards to tie and put in overtime.


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones122 View Post
    I wouldn't be. I would always rather go down being aggressive and playing to win rather than playing not to lose and getting bitten in the ***.
    They played to win. Didn't work out though.


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Find one college coach at any level that would have gone for it there and this thread can continue.

    There are none.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    I have seen this game before.
    Yes, technically, the conventional wisdom and McCarney-ball dictates you kick the field goal.
    BUT......Any human watching this game would know that Texas could throw a junk pass in the air and get either a catch or a penalty 80% of the time. Most football knowledgeable people would know that a desperate Texas would be throwing the ball and getting lots of yards and would most likely end the game throwing the ball into the endzone several times to win the game with little time left. And they did.
    Most Cyclones....and I hope our coaching staff is....would notice the accent of the refereeing crew and would know that to kick a fieldgoal and hope to run out the clock with breaks from them was NOT going to happen.
    All that said......CPR made the right call for a football coach. The wrong call for long suffering Cyclone fans.
    Richardson made questionable calls and plays. If he is hurt that much, why is he playing? The scramble with 40 seconds left was wierd.
    My biggest beef: IF we are going to recruit smurfs to play corner....could they be smart smurfs????? It is like they don't understand what referees are going to call? Are these guys coached at all or just dumb?



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Honestly, what are better odds? ISU making a field goal or ISU getting 3 yards? I'm really not sure....



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    The mistake was not being able to get a first down with a 2nd and 1 on their 5 yd line. Once it got to 4th down we had to kick the FG.

    I've never understood in that situation when you have 2 plays to get one yard why you don't just QB sneak it 2 times in a row if needed. It just takes too long to hike it to the QB, turn around, and hand it to the RB 4 yds behind the line of scrimmage IMO. Don't mess around. Just have Richardson sneak it twice if you have to.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrindingAway View Post
    Find one college coach at any level that would have gone for it there and this thread can continue.

    There are none.


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    I didn't realize scoring points was "playing not to lose".
    I wouldn't call it playing not to lose, it's not like he punted.

    I'm pretty confident he did choose the option that would give him the lesser amount of average points scored. He also did something that 95% of coaches would do in that situation.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    This is the key point, and is the reason why it's a good idea to go for it. Another good reason is if the opponent is down three it's possible the opponents coaching staff will be conservative if they do get into scoring position to preserve a chance at a fieldgoal.

    Bill Barnwell from Grantland does statistical analysis on these types of situations for NFL games and he suggests teams go for it in that situation.
    Exactly. By going up by 6 Texas had no option but to go agressive with their playcalling.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    The previous 4 Texas drives were 2 punts and 2 fumbles and almost no yardage gained, AND we actually forced what should have been a fumble on the game winning drive. Easily the right call, anyone that thinks otherwise is playing too much NCAA 14.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    If you go for it and dont get and then Texas scores a TD, now you're down by 4 and need a Touchdown. Every coach in the country takes the FG there. Rhoads made the right call.



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