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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard4Cy View Post
    Field Goals are never given at ISU. We chose the field goal, which made Texas need the touchdown. Doing this gave them a determination to move the ball faster.

    Go for it, don't get it, and Texas has to go the whole field with less of a determination because they only need a field goal.

    Go for it, get it, and you take more time off the clock and probably get a touchdown too.

    The choice is easy, you go for it.
    Makes no sense. They only need a FG - to tie if down 3. They still need a TD (in either case) to win. The determination level would be the same.


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    At some level I agree with the original poster. Not because going for it would be smart, but because we are ISU and the way that game ended is just how things happen to ISU.

    That whole critical series is exactly why I think the Messingham needs to go. 2nd and 1 at the 4 and we try to run AW up the middle when we have a guy on the sideline that is perfect for the situation. Also, lets get under center on these very short plays so there is a lot less chance to go backwards. On 3rd and 3 they still should have run the ball, and I am not so sure running it again of 4th would be a bad idea, (Of course that depend on where 3rd down ended.)

    In the end, holding on is the logical thing to try and do, but ISU just has very little luck with this.

    Ding ding ding....this is the correct answer.


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyFive View Post
    This. What would Dalton do? That's right, he'd go for the throat. We needed to go for the throat there and we didn't. If Mess runs twice and ISU gets stopped, okay, Texas, you take over at the 2 or 3 needing 70+ yards to attempt a tying field goal with maybe 2:15 left.

    Id take those odds every day and twice on Good Sunday.
    Only 2:15 left, but Texas still had 3 time outs, that is actually A LOT OF TIME. So time was not even going to be a factor is we didn't make a first down. The mistake was made on 2 and one, not on 4rth down. Going up the gut with a 175 lb tailback and no blocking full back was the mistake.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Kick the field goal all day and force them to score the TD. We only gave up 7 all 2nd half and to not force them to HAVE to score a TD would have been foolish IMO. I knew Texas was going to march the ball down the field on the last possession but thought it was going to be because they earned the yardage against our stupid prevent and not the officials just jogging the ball down the field.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Why does kicking the FG or going for it even matter when we won 37-24?


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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyballz View Post
    Just as dumb was the decision not to let them score after the PI call. You'd have over a minute and 2 TO's to get in FG range. There's the problem with a defensive minded head coach, hopefully he learns from this.
    So dumb that it works barring an official's gaffe.



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    Re: Why did we kick a field goal instead of going for it?

    Most coaches will go for the FG at that point because of the mentality of requiring a TD to lose, so Rhoads was just doing what the standard playbook says. I'm not sure that mathematically it might favor going for it. If you go for it and score a TD (maybe a 30% probability) you have basically won the game. If you go for it an don't make it Texas has to move approx. 65 yards for a FG that would tie the game (and give each team a 50-50 chance of winning in OT) or 95 yards for the win. If you kick the field goal they then have to go approx. 70-75 yards for the win. I didn't try to put all that into formula, but I'm guessing that mathematically going for it has better odds of producing a win.



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