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    Problems with the Defense

    Ok, this has really been bugging me for the last year and a two months or so. I have to say that I really expected alot more from us defensively. With that being said, what is the defensive philosohpy of this team? I am guessing we are playing a man defense, but the principles of the defense I'm seeing are unlike anything I have seen.

    First of all, udefended, uncontested. We are allowing the ball to come up the court undefended, this is fine, but we are also allowing passes to the wing uncontested, we don't have any hands in the passing lane and no denial defense. The wing players are playing straight up with there man and about four feet off. This KILLED us last night. Not only were they allowed easy passes to the wing but a quick catch and shoot was wide open. If we then tried to rush them they would drive right by.

    Second, can we get some help? One of the other reasons a player wants to get between his man and the ball is to help dribble penetration, avoid the screen, and see the floor. Because we are man up on the wings it is allowing for easy drives and no weakside help on the block. Not only that but we don't see or attempt to fight through any screens. Maybe we switch all screens, but at least see it coming.

    Third, defensive rebounding. If the man on the offside wing is sagging, like he should to help, he is an available rebounder. Right now we are getting little to no rebounding out of our guards because they aren't in the right position defensively. The only rebounds guards are getting is when their man beats them. The weakside wing should ALWAYS be there to rebound and often the most open for the rebound since their guy should be getting back on D. This clearly isn't happening...

    I consider myself pretty knowledgeable when it comes to defense in basketball, mainly because I was always guarding much quicker guys and had to get by on technique and position, so I listened ALOT. When McD was hired he said we would be sa strong defensive team. I expected us to be a smart and technical defensive team, that clearly isn't happening. Even if we can't score the ball we should be able to play good enough D to keep it close...


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    Re: Problems with the Defense

    Maybe one of these was left in the basketball office and the players have been watching it??

    That would explain the uncontested 3-pointers, lack of help defense, and defensive rebounding problems.



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    Re: Problems with the Defense

    Zone defense would probably help this team...



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    Re: Problems with the Defense

    defense of this team is like the play of the guards play on offense. Basicly doing nothing right. The guards are just getting smoked off the dribble, but they are not going out to cover the 3 either, add the big guys are slow to help with drives and don't play very good post defense, and don't rebound well. What is left?



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    Re: Problems with the Defense

    Some people call it lazy feet defense.

    Do we have leaders on this team at this point - Mike Taylor was a leader last year.


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    Re: Problems with the Defense

    I think part of the problem they are still learing, thinking too much, and not reacting enough. That will come with time. When one guy is learning the system you can hide him and experenced players can help out. When you have 4 and 5 guys learning a system that is hard to do. Give it time things will workout. Not many players come in as freshman and are good at defense right away.



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    Re: Problems with the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    defense of this team is like the play of the guards play on offense. Basicly doing nothing right. The guards are just getting smoked off the dribble, but they are not going out to cover the 3 either, add the big guys are slow to help with drives and don't play very good post defense, and don't rebound well. What is left?
    IF you sit off your man and let him catch it uncontested you are already in bad position... Then you either have a man shooting a basically uncontested shot or you run up to challenge and they blow by you, either way a no win situation...



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    Re: Problems with the Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyko View Post
    I think part of the problem they are still learing, thinking too much, and not reacting enough. That will come with time. When one guy is learning the system you can hide him and experenced players can help out. When you have 4 and 5 guys learning a system that is hard to do. Give it time things will workout. Not many players come in as freshman and are good at defense right away.
    The post defense isn't as bas as the perimiter D. These are BASIC principles of D that are easily learned and retained by anyone with any kind of basketball smarts. They should have been learned in the summer and before anyone took the court in a game...



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