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    Big 12 Wide Open

    After watching a few Big 12 games, the only games that scare me are OU and Baylor. I honestly believe if we keep improving, stay healthy, and get good OC playcalling, the others are all winnable. Thoughts?


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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    As others have said we picked a bad year to take steps backwards.



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    Well, we wont see a team as bad as Tulsa until Kansas. Not sure how much measurable improvement has occurred and have no reason to believe other teams wont improve as well.


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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    Not a single Big XII team has a single quality win. No team has proven themselves to be good. Tech and Baylor just haven't shown everyone that they are absolutely terrible like every other team has.



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    Even if Oklahoma wins today I don't count it as a good win. This is the same Notre Dame team that had to come from behind to beat Purdue 31-24. Purdue lost 24-55 today to Northern Illinois. They also only beat a thoroughly mediocre Michigan State team 13-17. Notre Dame is not a top 25 team and wouldn't be a quality win.



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Not a single Big XII team has a single quality win. No team has proven themselves to be good. Tech and Baylor just haven't shown everyone that they are absolutely terrible like every other team has.
    Id say WV over OSU is a pretty quality win, but I still dont think WV is a bowl team.



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    I don't even think OU is that scary. ND sucks and OU is taking full advantage.


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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    It's not wide open because baylor and ou are hands down better than everyone else.



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Id say WV over OSU is a pretty quality win, but I still dont think WV is a bowl team.
    I'd totally disagree. That game was total garbage. It looked like 2 JV high school teams both trying their hardest to lose.

    Oklahoma State was rated totally on inertia. They haven't beaten anybody either.



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    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    It's not wide open because baylor and ou are hands down better than everyone else.

    Clay leads No. 16 Oklahoma past West Virginia 16-7

    In another game that was total garbage.



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    It's not wide open because baylor and ou are hands down better than everyone else.
    I still think OSU is pretty good. I have a feeling they went into todays game not a bit concerned, and it came back to bite them.



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    If we had beaten Iowa that would have been the best OOC win for the Big XII this year, by a mile. That's how un-proven everyone is. Tech and Baylor might be good, they haven't been exposed like everyone else has. But every other team is garbage. It is just a question of where we fall on the garbage pile.



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    Oh come on. A win over Iowa does not come close to a win at Nortre Dame



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    Quote Originally Posted by ArgentCy View Post
    Oh come on. A win over Iowa does not come close to a win at Nortre Dame
    It would, but the OU/ND game is not over yet.



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    Re: Big 12 Wide Open

    Wes Lunt anyone? I think Walsh's best game was against us last year.



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