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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Great post. My interpretation for the 2nd year "struggles" is that Greg doesn’t go for a quick fix. He builds up the program, the right way, which takes time. After he left UNI, their program didn’t skip a beat because Greg had built it up (and the subsequent coach continued his work).

    In the long run, his approach is far superior to quick fixes. I would expect to see vast improvements next year.



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Quote Originally Posted by Go2Guy View Post
    Let me get this straight; our guard court will be better next year because the new guards will have the benefit of learning tips from Haluska and Petersen? I really hope you're right, but I can't find the faith.
    Let me ask you this, if you get a new job, who do you learn more from; you're supervisor or you're coworker who's been doing the job for a period of time? You're going to figure stuff out better if you have a good mentor than if you just have to get instructions from you're supervisor.



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Quote Originally Posted by clone52 View Post
    Let me ask you this, if you get a new job, who do you learn more from; you're supervisor or you're coworker who's been doing the job for a period of time? You're going to figure stuff out better if you have a good mentor than if you just have to get instructions from you're supervisor.
    Probably not going to learn alot from the guy you are there to replace though????



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Probably not going to learn alot from the guy you are there to replace though????
    That is part of being on a team. You try to earn your spot by getting better yourself, not by stifling the skills of your teammates. You also do what is needed to make the team better, including making your teammates better.


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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Didn't he also win a regular season championship his last year at UNI?


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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Quote Originally Posted by CLONE2THEBONE View Post
    Didn't he also win a regular season championship his last year at UNI?
    No...his teams always faded late in conference play. I think his last year at UNI they finished like 4th or 5th in the league, but I could be wrong. It was actually somewhat disappointing based on their early season results including winning at Final Four team LSU.



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Anybody know if, during the first year or two of his stops at UNI and Wayne State, GMac went through a similar "changing of the guard", so to speak, with his players?

    I realize why Tinsley, Blaylock, and Taggart left, but I'm wondering if this is just sort of what GMac does. Maybe he's a real hard *** and that turns guys that were recruited by less strict coaches, causing them to want to leave, and only when he can tell his own recruits up front what to expect will they be ready for it.

    It's a strange but very interesting trend, and I'm just trying to make sense of it. (and hoping that it happens again)



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Quote Originally Posted by Clone9 View Post
    Anybody know if, during the first year or two of his stops at UNI and Wayne State, GMac went through a similar "changing of the guard", so to speak, with his players?

    I realize why Tinsley, Blaylock, and Taggart left, but I'm wondering if this is just sort of what GMac does. Maybe he's a real hard *** and that turns guys that were recruited by less strict coaches, causing them to want to leave, and only when he can tell his own recruits up front what to expect will they be ready for it.

    It's a strange but very interesting trend, and I'm just trying to make sense of it. (and hoping that it happens again)
    I think you meant Stinson. But I would pay money to get Tinsley back for 2 years.
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    Makes me giddy.



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Tinsley
    any player that can make an open three
    any player
    any player
    any player that can catch a very hard pass, make a layup, and rebound

    That roster would be an above average college team. Add players of any skill at all, and it's a very good or better team.


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    So alothough you attempt"ed to say you didn"t understnad, now you do. Fair enough?

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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    ISU1FAN- I think you're pretty close. At UNI Greg won a Mo Valley tournament but not a conference title or NCAA game. In his last year UNI had about a 3-4 game lead in the league with about 8-9 games to go, and I believe they lost all but 2 of their last 10 games or so and finished in the middle of the pack. I think Greg is a good coach, but I won't be sold until we see some better results, which I would certainly expect by next year.



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Wayne Morgan was 20-13 and 19-12 his first 2 years.



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Didn't Wayne have a couple pretty decent guards at his disposal? Just curious...



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    It makes sense to compare a team with 2 last minute recruits, Taylor and McIntosh... and a team with two, supposed to be walkons, Peterson and Haluska with a team that had possibly one of the best back courts in ISU history. No really, it makes sense!!



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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    ISU1FAN- I think you're pretty close. At UNI Greg won a Mo Valley tournament but not a conference title or NCAA game. In his last year UNI had about a 3-4 game lead in the league with about 8-9 games to go, and I believe they lost all but 2 of their last 10 games or so and finished in the middle of the pack. I think Greg is a good coach, but I won't be sold until we see some better results, which I would certainly expect by next year.

    #1 reason why UNI never went very far in the NCAA and the only reason?????
    ----Ben Jacobsen couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in post season play. I watched the Georgia Tech game (Ben sucked, but UNI gave them the best game in Tech's run to the final four, if UNI hits 2 more threes in that game they beat Tech)

    The Georgetown game was just obvious, Hoyas were just too athletic and nobody could hit the broad side of the barn. I think Crawford had a decent game though. UNI gave them a game in spite of poor shooting.

    As far as Mac goes, let's hold off this stupid meltdown crap (it is fun to read I must admit, while I'm yelling at some posters) until year 4, then I expect post-season play.


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    Re: Greg McDermott's coaching career

    Quote Originally Posted by lennon3 View Post
    It makes sense to compare a team with 2 last minute recruits, Taylor and McIntosh... and a team with two, supposed to be walkons, Peterson and Haluska with a team that had possibly one of the best back courts in ISU history. No really, it makes sense!!
    But weren't they also young and inexperienced?



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