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    Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    You heard me right, ISU has offensive strengths to play to.

    The past few years, it was a running game primarily anchored by NFL level very large lineman. ISU's signature wins came with positive turnover margins AND Barnett running the zone read fearlessly and accurately, with an occasional pass to keep the D from stacking the box. Barnett was the best zone read QB in the past few years and there's a reason he won the big games. Running.

    This year the o-line is young, faster but undersized (age related mainly) and inexperienced for a power running game, and the QB is hurt. Not good for a zone read running game. But, the passing game has more high quality viable targets than any time I can remember. And the most accurate passing QB ISU has had in a while who will likely get better with experience and time. That includes the Seneca days where passing wildly sometimes worked but many times didn't.

    Here's three things I would like to see that play to those strengths:

    1) More passing plays. Lots more. Texas Tech style.
    2) Woody as the QB in a wildcat zone-read. The first two teams beat ISU by stacking the box and targeting the RB on the zone read, forcing the QB to carry. See ankle injury. Make them pay! Can you imagine Woody as the QB? If not Woody, then put James White back there. Or Shontrelle. Whoever makes the best zone reads and takes care of the snaps/ball security. And is a team leader and senior.
    3) Use the RB's that have good hands at the slot, on wheel routes and other passing playings to get them the ball. They can flat out run in open space. So get them there by scheme.

    What is missing for an effective zone-read for ISU? A big, durable QB that can and will take a pounding like Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, Collin Klein, or Vince Young. Other than Cam, these are QB's that aren't known for passing, but winning and a lot of games. With the ground and pound.

    Guess what? ISU has a QB that is moving towards the above in Joel Lanning. Still a few inches shorter than most of the above QB's, but towards that mold.

    Given the pounding teams will require of a QB in the zone-read, a two QB rotation like OSU has done the past few years makes sense - for durability and play to their strengths.

    I really miss Jared Barnett for his running game. And you do too. You just might not realize it.


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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    You had me, but lost me at #2. Wow. Just...wow.




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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    WR screen pass


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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    I agree with 1 & 3. But 2......no.



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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    I agree about passing more. Put Richardson in the gun and see if he can sling it. Also, target the TE's more. All those guys can ball.



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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    We certainly need to pass more. No reason whatsoever to run the typical zone read with a wounded duck at QB. Use packaged plays like most spread teams do to replace the zone read if needed. Also utilize the slot receivers across the middle. Don't try to throw to Jarvis downfield. Quick slants are effective when we run them. We need more of them if the defense keeps the safeties deep.



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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    LOL @ #2.


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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    The wildcat idea is silly. I would love to see more 2 tight end sets with a back in for pass protection. Can our backs block? Then send the ball down the field. We don't have players that can make big 12 quality LBs and DBs miss in the "screen" game.

    Then next year, retool the offense entirely.


    Last edited by Land Grant; 09-20-2013 at 12:00 PM.

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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    So I took a number 2 at number 2, but if you're going to be stubborn and keep trying to run the zone read like we've seen...would you rather have a wounded QB run it or a healthy FB sized RB?



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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    Quote Originally Posted by ShopTalk View Post
    So I took a number 2 at number 2, but if you're going to be stubborn and keep trying to run the zone read like we've seen...would you rather have a wounded QB run it or a healthy FB sized RB?
    I'd rather have a guy who can at least pretend to be able to throw the football. ISU has struggled to run against 7 man fronts I can't even imagine the terribleness that would result from running into 9 man fronts.



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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    I think we could get real creative with the wildcat idea... 4 rbs, diamond formation... I mean once or twice to just throw a different look at the defense... Just cuz its different doesn't mean they don't have defend it...



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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    Or I have a really crazy idea. If you are going to run the Read Option over and over, maybe have a QB who is built and best suited to do so.



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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    Quote Originally Posted by ShopTalk View Post
    So I took a number 2 at number 2, but if you're going to be stubborn and keep trying to run the zone read like we've seen...would you rather have a wounded QB run it or a healthy FB sized RB?
    Or just don't run the zone read.



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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    Quote Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
    Or I have a really crazy idea. If you are going to run the Read Option over and over, maybe have a QB who is built and best suited to do so.
    Hey!!! Your trying way too hard to make sense.... that's not what we do here...



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    Re: Playing to 2013 Offensive Strengths

    Texas Tech style passing offense would actually be pretty sweet in my opinion...and use Wimberly kind of like a poor man's Tavon Austin


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