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    Rhoads and Recruiting

    Before I see the next thread complaining about our football recruiting, thought I might offer up a snapshot of where we are and have been.

    Recruiting classes under Rhoads, according to Rivals

    2013 Class (Rhoads)
    Rivals Rank #58
    Ave: 2.56
    1 4* (Jake Campos)
    12 3*
    12 2*

    2* recruits make 48% of signing class

    2012 Class (Rhoads)
    Rivals Rank #87
    Ave 2.76
    16 3* (Quan West highest rated)
    5 2*

    2* recruits make 23.8% of signing class

    2011 Class (Rhoads)
    Rivals Rank #51
    Ave: 2.65
    15 3* (DeVondrick Nealy & Quinton Pompey are highest)
    9 2*

    2* recruits make 37.5% of signing class

    2010 Class (Rhoads)
    Rivals Rank #60
    Ave: 2.71
    2 4* (Anthony Young & Chris Young)
    16 3*
    10 2*

    2* recruits make 35.7% of signing class

    2009 Class (Rhoads)
    Rivals Rank #73
    Ave: 2.52
    1 4* (Darius Reynolds)
    11 3*
    12 2*

    2* recruits make 50% of signing class

    DRAFTED: AJ Klein 5th Rd (3* recruit)



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    2008 Class (Chizik)
    Rivals Rank #62
    Ave: 2.33
    1 – 4* (Sedrick Johnson)
    7 – 3*
    17 – 2*

    2* recruits make 68% of signing class

    DRAFTED: Carter Bykowski 7th Rd (2* recruit)

    2007 Class (Chizik)
    Rivals Rank #60
    Ave: 2.44
    1 – 4* (JJ Bass)
    9 – 3*
    15– 2*

    2* recruits make 60% of signing class

    DRAFTED: Kelechi Osemele 2nd Rd (3* recruit)

    2006 Class (McCarney)
    Rivals Rank #63
    Ave: 2.5
    15 – 3* (Austen Arnaud was highest)
    15– 2*

    2* recruits make 50% of signing class

    DRAFTED: Ahtyba Rubin 6th Rd (3* JuCo recruit)

    2005 Class (McCarney)
    Rivals Rank #58
    Ave: 2.52
    2 – 4* (Walter Nickel & Paul Fisher)
    9 – 3*
    15– 2*

    2* recruits make 57.7% of signing class

    DRAFTED: Alvin Bowen 5th Rd (3* JuCo recruit)
    Reggie Stephens 7th Rd (3* recruit)

    2004 Class (McCarney)
    Rivals Rank #48
    Ave: 2.38
    1 – 4* (Webster Patrick)
    10 – 3*
    17– 2*

    2* recruits make 60.7% of signing class

    DRAFTED: Tim Dobbins 5th Rd (2* JuCo recruit)

    2003 Class (McCarney)
    Rivals Rank #46
    Ave: 2.46
    12 – 3*
    14 – 2*

    2* recruits make 53.8% of signing class

    DRAFTED: Aaron Brant 7th Rd (3* recruit)



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    So… Paul Rhoads worst class was his first that averaged 2.52 stars and was 50% 2* recruits. Both of these beat Chizik’s classes. Rhoad’s worst class ties McCarney’s best classes during this time period (2005 for class average, 2006 for lowest percentage of 2* recruits in a class).



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    In terms of natural talent base…

    In 2013, Iowa ranked #40 with 1 FBS signee for every 2,440 HS players. This beats Wyoming (1/2,680), Rhode Island (1/2,950), Minnesota (1/3,400), and South Dakota (1/3,610). Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota, New Hampshire, Maine, and Montana did not produce an FBS signee. Just ahead of Iowa is New Mexico with 1/2,260. Overall best is Florida with 1/124.

    In 2012, Iowa ranked #41 with 1 FBS signee for every 2,770 HS players. This beats North Dakota (1/3,030), New Hampshire (1/3,755), New Mexico (1/3,840), and Montana (1/4,630). Vermont, Wyoming, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Maine did not produce an FBS signee. Just ahead of Iowa is Connecticut with 1/2,640. Overall best is Florida with 1/119.

    In 2012, Iowa ranked #42 with 1 FBS signee for every 2,160 HS players. This beats Minnesota (1/2,310), South Dakota (1/3,760), Maine (1/4,020), and Montana (1.4,780). New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Wyoming did not produce and FBS signee. Just ahead of Iowa is West Virginia with 1/2,140. Overall best is Florida with 1/111

    Could not find data from 2010.

    In 2009, Iowa ranked #38 with 1 FBS signee for every 1,743 HS players. This beats New York (1/1,858), New Mexico (1/1,958), Alaska (1/2,202), Wisconsin (1/2,310) Massachusetts (1/2,602), North Dakota (1/3,007), Minnesota (1/3,843), and Montana (1/4,875). Vermont, Rhode Island, South Dakota and Maine did not produce an FBS signee. Just ahead of Iowa is Oregon (1/1,451). Overall best is Florida with 1/319.



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    2012 recruiting class #87? Wow, and that was after the OKst game.



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by CyArob View Post
    2012 recruiting class #87? Wow, and that was after the OKst game.
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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    Pretty pathetic.



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by CyArob View Post
    2012 recruiting class #87? Wow, and that was after the OKst game.

    To be fair, that was in November and signing day was in February. Most recruits had already committed.


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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by CyArob View Post
    2012 recruiting class #87? Wow, and that was after the OKst game.
    Likely wouldn't have seen a bounce in the '12 class from that W. likely allowed an "in" with '13 and '14 classes



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneteach View Post
    To be fair, that was in November and signing day was in February. Most recruits had already committed.
    You're right, I got my years mixed up.



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    Can ISU please just start cheating like everyone else, it's not like the NCAA is capable of doing anything about it.



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    So… Paul Rhoads worst class was his first that averaged 2.52 stars and was 50% 2* recruits. Both of these beat Chizik’s classes. Rhoad’s worst class ties McCarney’s best classes during this time period (2005 for class average, 2006 for lowest percentage of 2* recruits in a class).
    And yet we're still dead last on offense in the B12 and nearly last for all of FBS. Never been close to a winning record in conference.



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by SpokaneCY View Post
    And yet we're still dead last on offense in the B12 and nearly last for all of FBS. Never been close to a winning record in conference.
    The best state at producing FBS talent in the B12 is Oklahoma. They averaged 7th in the nation for the 4 years Rivals released state rankings. The state of Texas averaged 14th. The state of Kansas averaged 31st. The state of West Virginia averaged 37th. The state of Iowa averaged 40th.

    The only other state with a BCS school who's average was near us or below us was Minnesota. Their average was the same as ours, also 40th. Only we have to share our state's FBS recruits with an in-state rival. Minnesota is the top dog in their state. And they aren't exactly a powerhouse either, if you haven't noticed.

    So... If you are a 4* recruit, you are probably from a southern state. Why would you travel all the way to Iowa in order to attend ISU? Especially when you have other (closer) options?

    My point: Everyone wants us to recruit better. But it is always going to be a challenge at Iowa State. So quit complaining so much about it. Because it is headed in the right direction (but will NEVER be great).



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    Another takeaway... Our highest rated recruits seldom pan out.



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    Re: Rhoads and Recruiting

    This wasn't exactly inspiring.


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