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    Offensive problems

    I understand it's hard to divvy out carries to 4 RB's + Richardson, but at some point you'd hope Messingham or whoever is in charge of this stuff would say "Hm, Shontrelle is only gaining about a yard per carry. We're running up the middle a lot. Maybe we should utilize our 240 pound RB?" And they would stick Jeff Woody in the game. I've never understood the lack of carries for Woody. He's not fumble-prone and he makes the LB's think twice about trying to stop the run.

    In the passing game, it's time to throw the ball downfield. Obviously Iowa was essentially playing prevent defense but Bundrage shredded their safeties and corners for 3 TD's. It's not like anything else is working either, so why not spread it out more? Right now we're basically trying to get 4-5 yards per play whether it's a run or a pass. That slow, methodical style works if you're willing to use play action, WR reverses, and other "gadgets" to exploit the D when they begin to play too tight. If Messingham would have waited any longer to throw downfield, he probably would've been murdered by Rhoads. With Tom Herman, our offense was willing to take shots to the endzone and throw in the middle of the field, not just to the sideline every time. Time to get rid of the 5-yard out route on 3rd and 10.



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    Re: Offensive problems

    Tom Mensa Herman put up 52 points against Cal. Looks like he has a game plan and adjusts.


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    Re: Offensive problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Tom Mensa Herman put up 52 points against Cal. Looks like he has a game plan and adjusts.
    Urban Meyer is an offensive guru. I highly doubt Herman calls a lot of plays on his own.



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    Re: Offensive problems

    this is Iowa state. offensive problems are the norm



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    Re: Offensive problems

    Quote Originally Posted by digZ View Post
    Urban Meyer is an offensive guru. I highly doubt Herman calls a lot of plays on his own.
    It's not like Urban just hired whoever though. It's obvious things Herman is a solid coordinator and position coach, otherwise he wouldn't have hired him.



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    Re: Offensive problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Tom Mensa Herman put up 52 points against Cal. Looks like he has a game plan and adjusts.
    Urban Meyer calls the plays for OSU.



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    Re: Offensive problems

    At least give a guy some sustained opportunity to show if he's got anything to offer. I'm not convinced by anyone on the offensive side until they prove themselves, but he has to give someone a real shot.


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    Re: Offensive problems

    We should get Urban on the phone during our Thursday Tulsa game and let him call the plays from his living room if he is available. It would be better.


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    Re: Offensive problems

    Quote Originally Posted by AMarner32 View Post
    I understand it's hard to divvy out carries to 4 RB's + Richardson, but at some point you'd hope Messingham or whoever is in charge of this stuff would say "Hm, Shontrelle is only gaining about a yard per carry. We're running up the middle a lot.
    Agreed. I feel bad for Shontrelle in a sense, he seems like a great guy, but he never really panned out. And, especially when your O-line is weak, it doesn't make a lot of sense to dance around in the backfield for 2 or 3 seconds before you pick a hole. Usually that leads to either (a) getting tackled for a loss, or (b) plowing into the back of your own lineman and hopefully falling forward for a yard. I don't think we should even be lining up with a finesse back since their is very little blocking for him to do his thing. We need someone more north-south.



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    Re: Offensive problems

    Quote Originally Posted by xboxfever View Post
    Urban Meyer calls the plays for OSU.
    Sounds like Herman calls the plays but Urban Meyer has veto power.

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    Re: Offensive problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    Sounds like Herman calls the plays but Urban Meyer has veto power.

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    I think the weekly kid captain should get veto power on the plays sent into our offense. Good chance we'd be 2-0.



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    Re: Offensive problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Tom Mensa Herman put up 52 points against Cal. Looks like he has a game plan and adjusts.
    Are you for real? You think Herman is game planning for OSU without Meyer calling all the shots? He was brought in to be someone that Urban could control, and who didn't have the resume or stomach to argue.


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    Re: Offensive problems

    We must really be on hard times when you hear people talking up tom herman



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    Re: Offensive problems

    It's obvious we can't run between the tackles. We just can't move anybody. Last night, in the first half, following a punt by ISU, Fox cut to a commercial. As they did, they showed our center getting blown off the line. He snapped it and was hit by Iowa's NG. He got knocked back 1-2 steps on the snap of the ball.

    When you can't run up the middle, you have to mix in sweeps, counters, misdirections. I see very little of this. We cannot continue to try to run up the gut...it is not working.

    I thought the play calling alst night was better but there were some real boneheaded calls. I understand trying to make what you want to run work, but you just will not have a high powered offense without a strong line. Unfortuantley, we are too young and inexperienced on the line and I just don't know how talented this group is.

    I would be interested to know our stats from 1st half vs. 2nd half. SR sharpened up, time of poss. was more even.



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    we are on hard times.



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