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    This is what happens when

    you fill up your recruiting classes with guys that have no other BCS offers. Iowa sucks and they are pounding us on both sides of the line.



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    Re: This is what happens when

    In before we're talented.



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    Re: This is what happens when

    We're nowhere close to Big 12 talent, but you'd think we have more than FCS teams. There are some FCS teams with less talent that could have beat the Hawks tonight.


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    Re: This is what happens when

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    you fill up your recruiting classes with guys that have no other BCS offers. Iowa sucks and they are pounding us on both sides of the line.
    Stupid. Lazy. (talking about you)



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    I don't get it. Why does Rhoads recruit bad players? When he scouts players is he purposely picking the bad ones? I don't understand how it's possible to be as ****** at football as our players our.



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    Re: This is what happens when

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    Stupid. Lazy. (talking about you)
    You can attack the messenger but the message is correct



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    Re: This is what happens when

    I don't think that anyone was expecting our O to be this lethargic. The D has kept these teams to under 30 points... that should be plenty to win against UNI and Iowa, especially considering how our O is playing.



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    Re: This is what happens when

    I htink having our starting center injured in both games has really hurt our O-line. Sam and the receivers have had little opportunity to get in any semblance of rhythm.




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    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    I htink having our starting center injured in both games has really hurt our O-line. Sam and the receivers have had little opportunity to get in any semblance of rhythm.
    It's year 5. It should be next man in. Why does Rhoads build no depth? Does he think his players won't get hurt?



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    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    You can attack the messenger but the message is correct
    Our recruiting isn't any worse than it as been anytime in the past 15 years. So, no, your message isnt correct. That is your perception. But your perception =\= reality.



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    Re: This is what happens when

    If we have talented players we should put them into the game.

    Can't blame messinghams poor play calling for all of this.

    Ugly football program



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    Re: This is what happens when

    B got a ball throw his way, made a guy miss and took it to the house. It's not talent it's play calling...



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    Re: This is what happens when

    simmer acgsclone.... We have played out of our a** with two star recruits for the last five years solely because of one man, CPR... he is slowly getting legit recruits and we will contend with a big 12 title some day if we can hold on to CPR. We r the red headed step child of the big 12 we will never have 4 and 5 star recruits lining up at our door. We gotta out coach and out play our opponents each week. We need to clean the closet out (coach mess) before we get there... It will happen gotta have patience



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    Re: This is what happens when

    Quote Originally Posted by MilehighClone View Post
    B got a ball throw his way, made a guy miss and took it to the house. It's not talent it's play calling...
    I don't know if I agree that pointing to one long play, where they missed a tackle means we have talented players.

    Iowa is not exactly loaded with talent, although I must admit that Kirk has put a lot of players into the league.

    However, when I look at their position groups versus ours, I don't see a lot of Cyclone wins.

    DL: Iowa by a long shot
    LB: Iowa by a long shot (last year we had a better group, but that was our best ever)
    Secondary: Push, possibly advantage Iowa
    Punter: ISU
    Kicker: Iowa
    QB: Iowa
    RB's: Iowa
    OL: Iowa by a long shot
    TE: Push
    WR: Push



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    Re: This is what happens when

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    I don't know if I agree that pointing to one long play, where they missed a tackle means we have talented players.

    Iowa is not exactly loaded with talent, although I must admit that Kirk has put a lot of players into the league.

    However, when I look at their position groups versus ours, I don't see a lot of Cyclone wins.

    DL: Iowa by a long shot
    LB: Iowa by a long shot (last year we had a better group, but that was our best ever)
    Secondary: Push, possibly advantage Iowa
    Punter: ISU
    Kicker: Iowa
    QB: Iowa
    RB's: Iowa
    OL: Iowa by a long shot
    TE: Push
    WR: Push
    Better because of talent or experience or coaching? They have an experienced D line this year (was not last year) and start three senior LBs. Their O line is always solid.

    Our DBs looked bad tonight because they had to give a big cushion - no safety help because we were selling out to stop the run. Their WR are no better than ours. Cannot compare QB off this game - Sam is hurt.



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