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    Question about ISU offense

    Sorry if someone else posted this earlier, but I didn't see it. I just found this grantland article from several weeks ago about QB-option "combo" or "packaged" plays crossing over from college to NFL. Pretty interesting stuff.

    My question is: Is this the type of offense Messingham is trying to run? Some of the sets and concepts seem familiar, but I don't have cyclones.tv (cardinal sin, I know. I also don't have RV as my avatar) and so I don't watch replays of games a lot. Can folks with more football knowledge give some insight?

    Packaged Plays and the Newest Form of Option Football - The Triangle Blog - Grantland



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    Re: Question about ISU offense

    Quote Originally Posted by ojoe2317 View Post
    Sorry if someone else posted this earlier, but I didn't see it. I just found this grantland article from several weeks ago about QB-option "combo" or "packaged" plays crossing over from college to NFL. Pretty interesting stuff.

    My question is: Is this the type of offense Messingham is trying to run? Some of the sets and concepts seem familiar, but I don't have cyclones.tv (cardinal sin, I know. I also don't have RV as my avatar) and so I don't watch replays of games a lot. Can folks with more football knowledge give some insight?

    Packaged Plays and the Newest Form of Option Football - The Triangle Blog - Grantland
    Messingham runs the "Blatantly obvious and easy to read" offense.


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    Re: Question about ISU offense

    This will end well I'm sure.


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    Re: Question about ISU offense

    I have nothing but questions about our offense.


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    Re: Question about ISU offense

    Offensive Coaching staff=amateur hour.



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    Re: Question about ISU offense

    Last year we ran some packaged plays, but we mostly ran the traditional zone read (run-run option). I don't remember us running any packaged plays against UNI. I don't understand why we don't run a decent amount of packaged plays. It would be a good way to run the option while not putting SR in a position to get hit as often.



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    Re: Question about ISU offense

    It looks to me like our passing plays are blocked like passing plays (unlike the description in the article where the OL blocks everything like a run without getting too far downfield).

    I could be missing some of these. I dont think we do a very good job of exploiting the defense and "making sure they are always wrong" as the article explains


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    Re: Question about ISU offense

    They have been run before but if I see another zone read run with an uncovered slot receiver, I am going to blow up into a thousand pieces. We don't run them much.


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    Re: Question about ISU offense

    Another one from Grantland about Chip Kelly's offense and packaged plays:

    The Power of the Chip Kelly Offense - The Triangle Blog - Grantland

    Now I know we're not the Eagles, or even Oregon for that matter, but the packaged plays definitely seems like the way to go.



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