Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 35

Thread: There is a hope

  1. #1
    Addict
    Points: 147,885, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    jaretac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Frigidaire
    Posts
    7,639
    Points
    147,885
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4
    Given: 0

    There is a hope

    Ive avoided posting since UNI but there is hope guys and I think a good place to look is WVU. Williams and Mary doesnt compare to UNI and WVU was lucky to beat them last week. This week they actually hang with OU. Improvement from week 1 to week 2 is often the most dramatic of the season, espessially with a young team like ours.

    Second point, after seeing some results, I honestly think we have a shot to win the next three games but we have to improve.



  2. #2
    Addict
    Points: 110,699, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    ISUKyro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    9,992
    Points
    110,699
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 234
    Given: 663

    Re: There is a hope

    I sometimes get hope confused with misery loves company.

    But you are correct, if we can improve even a bit with as bad as big12 schools have looked who knows, maybe we do have a win here or there.



  3. #3
    Speechless
    Points: 732,927, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    Cyclonepride's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    A pineapple under the sea
    Posts
    48,585
    Points
    732,927
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,865
    Given: 881

    Re: There is a hope

    I agree. There have been many seasons where an awful effort out of the gate meant little or nothing about the rest of the season. This is particularly true about young teams.



  4. #4
    Speechless
    Points: 184,837, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    ajk4st8's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    15,506
    Points
    184,837
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 224
    Given: 530

    Re: There is a hope

    The UNI game doesnt really bother me that much on its own.

    Its the fact that we are 2-7 in our last nine games, with some REALLY bad performances in there.



  5. #5
    Addict
    Points: 104,245, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 10.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Clonefan94's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Schaumburg, IL
    Posts
    6,252
    Points
    104,245
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 232
    Given: 120

    Re: There is a hope

    The biggest problem I have with this, is that our offense, especially our O-line, hasn't improved in 4 years. I bought into the "Just let them gel" mentality in the past, but I'm now at a "I'll believe it when I see it." I wouldn't be as worried if the offense played that bad against a top ranked, hell, even decent FBS team, but there is no excuse for what we saw out there last Saturday. And as I said before, it's the same thing we've seen, minus a handful of games, over the last 4 seasons. I just don't see this year being any different. You don't just all of a sudden learn how to block.



  6. #6
    Speechless
    Points: 277,256, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 29.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    chuckd4735's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Ankeny, Iowa
    Posts
    15,148
    Points
    277,256
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,139
    Given: 221

    Re: There is a hope

    Quote Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
    The UNI game doesnt really bother me that much on its own.

    Its the fact that we are 2-7 in our last nine games, with some REALLY bad performances in there.
    Id say in those 9 game, 4 good performances (KSU, Baylor, KU, WVU), 2 bad performances (OSU, OU), and 3 horrible performances (UT, Tulsa, UNI).

    You could also say in ISU's last 10 games, they have had 5 pretty good outings (but only 3-2 in those games).


    Last edited by chuckd4735; 09-08-2013 at 12:48 PM.

  7. #7
    Pro
    Points: 29,176, Level: 52
    Level completed: 48%, Points required for next Level: 574
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    2,085
    Points
    29,176
    Level
    52
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 31
    Given: 43

    Re: There is a hope

    I see a lot of positves from our remaining schedule with the game watching I did yesterday, Tulsa, looked pretty bad most of the game again, WVU/OU was a yawner, WVU and OU had a ton of injuries happen in that game as well. To me the only conference teams that scare me this year after yesterday are Baylor and Okie St... TCU did not look that great either plus now they have QB contro again.....



  8. #8
    Addict
    Points: 128,401, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    WhatchaGonnaDo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    5,174
    Points
    128,401
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 355
    Given: 208

    Re: There is a hope

    Quote Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
    The UNI game doesnt really bother me that much on its own.

    Its the fact that we are 2-7 in our last nine games, with some REALLY bad performances in there.
    Forget about last year, that doesn't matter now..

    Gotta move on and beat Iowa



  9. #9
    Starter
    Points: 14,773, Level: 36
    Level completed: 91%, Points required for next Level: 77
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    CascadeClone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    992
    Points
    14,773
    Level
    36
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 130
    Given: 188

    Re: There is a hope

    Yes, there is hope. What has to happen for this team to be good? For me, just two things:
    1. The D-line must get better
    2. The O-line must get better

    I think #2 will happen. The run game was OK vs UNI, the pass blocking not so much. They are young and haven't played together much, and lost Farniok. So I think it is reasonable to think when Farniok returns and they play together more, then they will improve thru the season.

    #1 I am much less optimistic. The defense is going to be a liability, but maybe in a few games they'll get some turnovers and be effective that way.

    Other factors seem to be OK. QB is OK. Special teams OK. Going to have to find a way to win with offense though.

    OK, that's a 3rd thing - Mess must figure it out NOW. Of that I am less hopeful...



  10. #10
    All-Star
    Points: 48,582, Level: 68
    Level completed: 17%, Points required for next Level: 1,168
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    FootballinTexas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,267
    Points
    48,582
    Level
    68
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5
    Given: 0

    Re: There is a hope

    Quote Originally Posted by jburke View Post
    I see a lot of positves from our remaining schedule with the game watching I did yesterday, Tulsa, looked pretty bad most of the game again, WVU/OU was a yawner, WVU and OU had a ton of injuries happen in that game as well. To me the only conference teams that scare me this year after yesterday are Baylor and Okie St... TCU did not look that great either plus now they have QB contro again.....
    Agree on Baylor. TCU will be more dangerous now without the QB issue. In both of their games, they've been more consistent with Boykin in the game. Should have just went with him from the start, same for OKie St. They should have started the season with Walsh. If OU goes with Bell and commit to running the football they could be a mirror of KState with Klien. TT will get tested next week with TCU and we'll see what they are really made of. Texas looked bad yesterday but that was a very good BYU team. KU, WVU, KSU the jury is still out on them.

    I think we beat Iowa in a close one but lose to Tulsa. Tulsa runs the football well and Green will do just enough in the passing game.



  11. #11
    Speechless
    Points: 184,837, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    ajk4st8's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    15,506
    Points
    184,837
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 224
    Given: 530

    Re: There is a hope

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Id say in those 9 game, 4 good performances (KSU, Baylor, KU, WVU), 2 bad performances (OSU, OU), and 3 horrible performances (UT, Tulsa, UNI).

    You could also say in ISU's last 10 games, they have had 5 pretty good outings (but only 3-2 in those games).

    the KSU and WVU game were close, but losses at Jack Trice. OSU and OU put up 1200 yards offense in those 2 games alone. Hopefully we cant get to the point where we can have a great win without having to rely on 4+ turnovers.



  12. #12
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 58,721, Level: 75
    Level completed: 12%, Points required for next Level: 1,329
    Overall activity: 22.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CyCloned's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Robins, Iowa
    Posts
    4,907
    Points
    58,721
    Level
    75
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 253
    Given: 107

    Re: There is a hope

    There is some hope. I for one am one of those guys that is not willing to accept the UNI game as the defining game in terms of performance. They deserve at least a couple more games to prove that they laid an egg against the Panthers. They better come out of that goofy tunnel ready to punch the Hawks in the mouth. If they do, they will have a good chance at a win.



  13. #13
    Pro
    Points: 60,558, Level: 76
    Level completed: 32%, Points required for next Level: 1,092
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    DRCHIRO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Norwalk
    Posts
    2,236
    Points
    60,558
    Level
    76
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 49
    Given: 2

    Re: There is a hope

    Quote Originally Posted by CascadeClone View Post
    Yes, there is hope. What has to happen for this team to be good? For me, just two things:
    1. The D-line must get better
    2. The O-line must get better

    I think #2 will happen. The run game was OK vs UNI, the pass blocking not so much. They are young and haven't played together much, and lost Farniok. So I think it is reasonable to think when Farniok returns and they play together more, then they will improve thru the season.

    #1 I am much less optimistic. The defense is going to be a liability, but maybe in a few games they'll get some turnovers and be effective that way.

    Other factors seem to be OK. QB is OK. Special teams OK. Going to have to find a way to win with offense though.

    OK, that's a 3rd thing - Mess must figure it out NOW. Of that I am less hopeful...
    I see what you're saying but I think we get better defensively because our defensive coaches have proven in the past that they can coach & scheme. I've yet to see that from the offensive staff on consistent basis.

    Hopefully they both start happening this weekend.



  14. #14
    Pro
    Points: 64,885, Level: 79
    Level completed: 3%, Points required for next Level: 1,565
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Omaha Cy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    The Omaha, Nebraska
    Posts
    3,228
    Points
    64,885
    Level
    79
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 84
    Given: 96

    Re: There is a hope

    Much like Darth Vader, I believe there is still good in this team. I'm not ready to write it off as 2-10 and completely hopeless just yet. UNI whooped ISU in a pretty similar manner 2 years ago. The difference obviously was that Jantz hit the winning lottery numbers late to pull out the win. Wally and Rhoads will circle the defensive wagons like they always do...they did in the 2nd half against UNI for the most part.
    The real question is whether or not we get the 6 point 2nd half outta Mess, or the 10 pt 2nd half?

    If/when skynet takes over and deploys Terminators onto our soil, I expect a good deal of the cyclone fan base will either just go fetal or kill themselves immediately, based on this week's onslaught of rants. Hopefully the team and coaching staff has a far greater sense of resolve, and chooses to pick themselves off the mat and fight like hell from here on out.

    FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FOR IOWA STATE!


    http://www.tecmobowl-vs-rbi.com/index.html
    No one can match our dedication and passion for Nintendo's classic sports titles...Tecmo Bowl & R.B.I. Baseball. In-depth strategy guides, player attributes, team rankings, along with incredibly detailed recaps of our season play. We don't reminisce, we just keep playing!

  15. #15
    Addict
    Points: 147,885, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    jaretac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Frigidaire
    Posts
    7,639
    Points
    147,885
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4
    Given: 0

    Re: There is a hope

    Quote Originally Posted by DRCHIRO View Post
    I see what you're saying but I think we get better defensively because our defensive coaches have proven in the past that they can coach & scheme. I've yet to see that from the offensive staff on consistent basis.

    Hopefully they both start happening this weekend.
    I agree. The defensive coaches have proved they can make lemonade out of lemons in the past and I expect the same this year for the most part. I think Offensive coaches need to prove something. I'm giving them a pass for last game because
    A) they did change up some schemes from last season
    B) they have a lot of young talent

    In the broad scheme of things, having two byes early in the year I think might benefit this team more than older more experienced teams.


    Last edited by jaretac; 09-08-2013 at 05:00 PM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: Fox Sports Net
  • BASKETBALL: Iowa State vs. Alabama
  • November 24, 2014
  • 08:30 PM