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    2015

    I've seen a lot of talk on these boards about how year 5 was suppose to be a big year for ISU because that's the make it/break it year for many coaches. This isn't the case for CPR, that time will be year 7. That also gives 2 more years of recruiting and 2 more years of players using the facilities which will pay off more and more each year.
    In 2015 the roster will feature players from better recruiting classes in starting positions. Richardson will be a Senior and have his 3rd year as a starter. Nealy and Standard will be will also be Seniors and Mister could be in that mix if not moved to WR. The O-line will feature players like Campos, Curtis, Dangle, Lalk, Omoile, and Williams (some of these guys already pushing and getting playing time). The WR position will feature Bundrage, Daley, Ecby, Harris, Montgomery, West, and add Lazard (add a couple of other current recruits, plus 4 of those mentioned guys are at or over 6'3''!). That offense has the potential to take ISU to the next step alone. So, given not many coaching changes (but I could see Coach K take over as OC because the pistol is his thing) and if this group stays intact, the potential will be great.
    On the flip side the D will feature a great secondary. Rodgers, Richardson, Lynn, Cotton, Tribune will all be there and that's a deep secondary. The DL has some guys that could be solid starters like Aka, Cousin, and Meyers. The LBs will be lead by Knott, Meeks, Seeley, and White. And perhaps Netten will become our long awaited answer to the K position.
    In two years these underclassmen will be Juniors and Seniors and 3 full years in the new facility, lots of playing time under their belts, and 2 more years on top of this season for the coaches to do their thing with them. So, year 7 will be the big year for CPR and staff to show if they have what it takes to move ISU into the upper middle of the Big 12.



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    Re: 2015

    This year wasn't about "taking the next step" this year was more about "not falling backwards into the chasm of the 1980s"



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    Re: 2015

    This year was about beating FCS instead of losing the third time to UNI.


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    Re: 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    This year wasn't about "taking the next step" this year was more about "not falling backwards into the chasm of the 1980s"
    Agree, no one was expecting big things this year, just because it was year 5.

    But yes, many (including me), thought the foundation of the program had been built solidly enough that getting *****-slapped by UNI at home was in our rear view mirror.



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    Re: 2015

    HA, 7 freakin years for what? To win 7 games? Rhoads had people fired up after his first few years because of the mess that Chizik had for 3 and all the blowout losses. It wasn't all that hard to impress this fan base, few upset wins and a bowl game and everyone thought we had a savior. We have bought in yet Rhoads isn't giving the results that should be delivered with this type of fan support. I believe Rhoads is the right man for this job but its taking a little longer then I would like.

    Sell outs, season tickets sold out, tons of fan support in off season events, etc. Yet he ask us to be patient. I have been patient and I will be patient. However, if it takes 7 years to get us to a mediocre 8 win season then thats pathetic. No other fan base in America would settle for that and thats why Iowa State will always be a losing program in football, we settle for mediocrity and even celebrate it. Sorry if I'm a debbie downer but I don't get that amped up about a 6-7 season. Bowl games are great and I try to tailor my expectations to reality but seriously, after 5-6 years of 6 win seasons the excitement will wear out and Jack Trice wont be packed every saturday like it is now, people will lose faith.



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    Re: 2015

    I may be wrong, but not many fan bases sell out season tickets after a couple 6 win seasons. I will always be a big fan, but to have those casual fans (that most likely arent "Fanatics"), you're going to have to beat the teams you are supposed to in year 5. They won't be around in year 7 if that doesn't happen.



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    Re: 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by GoSTATE71 View Post
    HA, 7 freakin years for what? To win 7 games? Rhoads had people fired up after his first few years because of the mess that Chizik had for 3 and all the blowout losses. It wasn't all that hard to impress this fan base, few upset wins and a bowl game and everyone thought we had a savior. We have bought in yet Rhoads isn't giving the results that should be delivered with this type of fan support. I believe Rhoads is the right man for this job but its taking a little longer then I would like.

    Sell outs, season tickets sold out, tons of fan support in off season events, etc. Yet he ask us to be patient. I have been patient and I will be patient. However, if it takes 7 years to get us to a mediocre 8 win season then thats pathetic. No other fan base in America would settle for that and thats why Iowa State will always be a losing program in football, we settle for mediocrity and even celebrate it. Sorry if I'm a debbie downer but I don't get that amped up about a 6-7 season. Bowl games are great and I try to tailor my expectations to reality but seriously, after 5-6 years of 6 win seasons the excitement will wear out and Jack Trice wont be packed every saturday like it is now, people will lose faith.
    If you're expecting ISU to become Texas, OU, and OSU then you best become a fan of one of those schools. ISU is a program that can reach 7 and 8 wins on a regular basis and maybe hit 9 or 10 a couple of times in a decade. ISU does not have the money to compete with those schools. As far as fan support goes, it hasn't reached Iowa support yet. Yes its growing and seeing new highs but ISU isn't a SEC school in terms of fan support. ISU was way off the map just a few years ago, and only now has returned to it. Its going to take more than 5 years to build something at ISU. Sorry, but it just is.



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    Re: 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    This year was about beating FCS instead of losing the third time to UNI.
    Unfortunately, it was the fourth time.



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    Re: 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonin View Post
    I may be wrong, but not many fan bases sell out season tickets after a couple 6 win seasons. I will always be a big fan, but to have those casual fans (that most likely arent "Fanatics"), you're going to have to beat the teams you are supposed to in year 5. They won't be around in year 7 if that doesn't happen.
    But after year 7, they'll be back in year 8.



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    Re: 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by DBQR4CY View Post
    If you're expecting ISU to become Texas, OU, and OSU then you best become a fan of one of those schools. ISU is a program that can reach 7 and 8 wins on a regular basis and maybe hit 9 or 10 a couple of times in a decade. ISU does not have the money to compete with those schools. As far as fan support goes, it hasn't reached Iowa support yet. Yes its growing and seeing new highs but ISU isn't a SEC school in terms of fan support. ISU was way off the map just a few years ago, and only now has returned to it. Its going to take more than 5 years to build something at ISU. Sorry, but it just is.
    Why do posters like this have to swing the pendulum back so hard?

    Who's asking or expecting to be UT or OU? NO ONE.

    Yeah, I agree it's going to take more than five years. Like I stated in another thread the (vast) majority of optimistic posters predicted 6-7 wins, tops. Plenty of people predicted 5 wins.

    I'll never understand how finding a loss to UNI unacceptable = unrealistic expectations. We don't have unrealistic expectations. We have expectations of beating UNI. Losses to UI and EVERY conference opponent are acceptable in a typical season. But wtf is going on in the program if in year five ISU can't beat UNI?


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    Re: 2015

    Actually, next year should be that year.

    Returning QB, 6 of 8 WRs in the 2 deep return, 2 of 3 returning TEs, 4 of 5 starting OL guys returning and I'd say Lictenberg could lose his spot to Dagel(soph.) by years end if he doesn't play better. RB is the only position that takes a hit losing 3 seniors but I think some would agree right now depth is hurting us there because we are trying to cater to all the guys.

    On the defense, we return 9 of 10 on the DL. 6 of 7 return in the LB corps. 4 of 5 return in the CB spots. Safety takes a big hit losing 3 of 5 in the 2 deep.

    This doesn't even included talented OL like Campos, Severs, and Homa coming off redshirts. Or Lazard and Montgomery, both 6'5" 4 star WRs. Or all the redshirt freshman that aren't in the 2 deeps this year.



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    Re: 2015

    If offensive coaching continues as is, personnel is immaterial.



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    Re: 2015

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    The O-line will feature players like Campos, Curtis, Dangle, Lalk, Omoile, and Williams (some of these guys already pushing and getting playing time).
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    Re: 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by DBQR4CY View Post
    I've seen a lot of talk on these boards about how year 5 was suppose to be a big year for ISU because that's the make it/break it year for many coaches. This isn't the case for CPR, that time will be year 7. That also gives 2 more years of recruiting and 2 more years of players using the facilities which will pay off more and more each year.
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    On the flip side the D will feature a great secondary. Rodgers, Richardson, Lynn, Cotton, Tribune will all be there and that's a deep secondary. The DL has some guys that could be solid starters like Aka, Cousin, and Meyers. The LBs will be lead by Knott, Meeks, Seeley, and White. And perhaps Netten will become our long awaited answer to the K position.
    In two years these underclassmen will be Juniors and Seniors and 3 full years in the new facility, lots of playing time under their belts, and 2 more years on top of this season for the coaches to do their thing with them. So, year 7 will be the big year for CPR and staff to show if they have what it takes to move ISU into the upper middle of the Big 12.
    Better recruiting classes by ISU standards, but these are still recruiting classes which were ranked 9th or 10th in the B12. I think we will be better the next two seasons, but it will still be a struggle to get out of the bottom third of the conference.



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    Re: 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by LindenCy View Post
    Unfortunately, it was the fourth time.
    That is terrible. Why are they on our schedule? The Domesters have been making a living off our fodder.


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