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    Re: Johnny Manziel suspended for half

    Quote Originally Posted by jtdoyle1 View Post
    I would rather have had the NCAA say they can't prove anything and he gets nothing than a joke of a punishment half game suspension.
    Essentially the NCAA gave the guy a half game suspension for not really doing anything wrong other than not keeping track of every single signed item after signing it


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    Re: Johnny Manziel suspended for half

    Quote Originally Posted by royhobbs09 View Post
    Figures that Jiri Hubalek gets 3 games for borrowing an old beat up car from an Iowa booster, CJ Bruton gets a lifetime ban for taking a few thousand in Australia and Lucca gets a season for just playing on a team with people who made money in Europe but Johnny Football gets a half for accepting thousands. But the NCAA is an equal distributor of justice...
    You expect more from the NCAA? They waited until after the bowl to suspend the Ohio State guys. How long did Chiz lose Cam Newton for in the season Auburn "won" the national title? How about Reggie Bush? Johnny Football is just dumb enough to sign some autographs for enough money for new rims for his car, but NCAA gets their cash from universities like his that get money from TV. You think TV guys want a diminished product to sell? They can punish A&M and little Johnny after the advertisers pay them for each game he starts.



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    Re: Johnny Manziel suspended for half

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Essentially the NCAA gave the guy a half game suspension for not really doing anything wrong other than not keeping track of every single signed item after signing it
    I'm pretty sure he did it, but it doesn't matter as NCAA won't punish the biggest star they have before the season. It's a slap on the wrist. How much will A&M pour it on after he returns just to build his stat line?



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    Re: Johnny Manziel suspended for half

    The irony, I can taste it. A&M website selling a picture of Johnny Manziel in the article in which they announce the suspension of Johnny Manziel for signing autographed pictures that would later be sold.



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    Re: Johnny Manziel suspended for half

    Quote Originally Posted by cmjh10 View Post
    Texa$ A&M & $EC

    What a joke, he obviously did something wrong since they are suspending him. This is such a disgrace for the NCAA. Penn State players got punished worse than this for something they had absolutely no involvement in. ******* joke.
    It's technically for some NCAA bylaw which kindly requests that players try to stop people from selling their signatures. It's pretty stupid. They should've given him no suspension.



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    Re: Johnny Manziel suspended for half

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    So if the NCAA can't subpoena anything or anybody, what exactly would have been the point of digging any further?

    In any of these NCAA violation cases where there is no clear evidence or individuals willing to come forward, all the parties involved have to do is to deny any wrong-doing and keep their stories straight between them, and nothing will happen. The NCAA has no power to subpoena documents that could contradict the answers given to the NCAA investigators, and they don't have to power to compel outside individuals to give any statements.

    If you look back at things like the SMU death penalty, the Reggie Bush/USC incident, tOSU/Tressel incident, the only reason the NCAA was able to do anything in those cases was because some of the individuals involved talked to the NCAA and gave evidence.

    The inability of the NCAA to seriously investigate these things is is never going to change unless something radical happens, like, for example, a federal law being passed that makes the payments to players prohibited by the NCAA rules actually illegal. Perhaps the law would give investigative authority to the NCAA, who could then subpoena witnesses and documents. Another thing that would have to happen would be for the professional sports leagues to institute meaningful bans on players found to have broken the NCAA rules (i.e. a current pro player found to have violated the NCAA rules is immediately banned for a given amount of time, and a college player found to have violated the rules cannot join the professional leagues for a given amount of time).

    Neither of these things is likely to ever happen, so the NCAA will continue to run around with potency similar to that of a steer sent out to service the herd...
    Which furthers the question: what exactly is the point of the NCAA?



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    Re: Johnny Manziel suspended for half

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    Which furthers the question: what exactly is the point of the NCAA?
    That is a very good question. At this point, the purpose seems to be to punish those institutions that self-report violations.

    If an individual, group of individuals, or an entity has no integrity and is willing to lie to cover up their violations, they can pretty much go on breaking NCAA rules without repercussions. The only hope for those with integrity is that eventually somebody involved with the cheaters won't be able to keep quiet, or that somebody will grow a conscience and leak something.

    On the other hand, the NCAA is member-based organization, and only has the authority that the members desire it to have. The NCAA is a "steer" because the majority of its members want it to be a "steer"...


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