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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    There are plenty of other areas in ames for everyone. Campustown should be a student\entertainment area first, and thats what lane4 seemed to be failing to do. The hotel was the only good part of that. Trying to shoehorn in the types of grocery\retail that have never succeeded on welch and pushing out bars? Not a good idea. Now if you razed the whole block and brought in investors to bring a new class of bars (along with other entertainment... a mini power and light might be interesting), then you might have a concept that would work.
    How many bars have been successful in the long term there? Maybe having one fewer wouldn't be all that bad. Wasn't Yokes about due for a name change anyway?


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    The old timers will have to help out on this one. I was at ISU when Peoples Drug closed and the place was converted into a bar. As I recall the drug store was successful, but I don't recall why it closed. Losing their lease maybe???

    Anyway, I shopped at Peoples Drug store quite a bit and I recall the place always having traffic. It's hard to imagine how a Campustown CVS/Walgreens would not be successful.


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Personally I think a CVS/walgreens type store would be suited better at the old CBS/Alpha copies builiding instead of the entrance to the campustown that is geared for students.

    Isn't the office space in Chamberlain lofts still siting empty?



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Quote Originally Posted by JSmoove View Post
    Mind expanding on this? To a new new building? Existing building?
    think existing, person who I heard it from said it will be bigger.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IHavNoCyCash View Post
    think existing, person who I heard it from said it will be bigger.
    If you're thinking of the old club element building, you're wrong. That building is a dumb investment.



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Quote Originally Posted by IHavNoCyCash View Post
    this isn't as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. I've heard they are moving Yokes to a bigger place. Jeff's is staying, which is good.My question is, why are people getting mad now?

    This has been in the works for awhile, why didn't the students step up earlier in the process? That group on facebook aren't the only people that want kingland to not remodel, but making a group to put attention to this on august 25, 2 days later is a vote from the ACC about a tax incentive.

    To summarize, if the students think they would have made a difference, they should have spoke up awhile ago. Pretty much too late now.bad quality pic of what it'll look like.https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&type=1&ref=nf
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    If you're thinking of the old club element building, you're wrong. That building is a dumb investment.
    You're right. The student bar scene and myself included preferred to see it rot/sit empty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    How many bars have been successful in the long term there? Maybe having one fewer wouldn't be all that bad. Wasn't Yokes about due for a name change anyway?
    Why would it need a name change, when it's still a busy, thriving bar?



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Quote Originally Posted by DSMCy View Post

    Am I missing something here? Why wouldn't you want a company to renovate and build brand new buildings? Wouldn't a facelift benefit everyone? Especially since this project wouldn't affect any bars, unless I'm mistaken?
    Why wouldn't you want beautiful old buildings, including an old theatre torn down for cookie cutter, crappy new construction. I can understand why a 19yr old wouldn't give a xxxx, but I would expect more from the city.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE View Post
    Why wouldn't you want beautiful old buildings, including an old theatre torn down for cookie cutter, crappy new construction. I can understand why a 19yr old wouldn't give a xxxx, but I would expect more from the city.
    Many of those buildings are in poor shape and have structural issues. The old theater has seen its day and will not be a theater again (GSB tried to reopen and failed due to the feasibility of it). There are plenty of bars for students to frequent and the whole first floor of this development will be retail (restaurants/bars, shops, etc.). The office space will be on the second and third floors (Kingland on 2nd floor, ISU on 3rd). Having more people in that area during the day (estimated 200-300 employees this project would result in) will also help the business in campustown.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE View Post
    Why wouldn't you want beautiful old buildings, including an old theatre torn down for cookie cutter, crappy new construction. I can understand why a 19yr old wouldn't give a xxxx, but I would expect more from the city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    Why would it need a name change, when it's still a busy, thriving bar?
    The point was that it's been an example of a bar property that has changed. If they move, my guess is it would still be successful. The point wasn't about Yokes, really, more the bar scene in Campustown.


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    CT should cater to the student population. But is it really too much to ask for ONE decent bar/restaurant that doesn't smell of vomit or bleach and have sticky floors with a decent bathroom for us parent/faculty/staff codgers? Café Beaudelaire is it right now I think. Perhaps the new development can accommodate us codgers.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sleestakCy View Post
    CT should cater to the student population. But is it really too much to ask for ONE decent bar/restaurant that doesn't smell of vomit or bleach and have sticky floors with a decent bathroom for us parent/faculty/staff codgers? Café Beaudelaire is it right now I think. Perhaps the new development can accommodate us codgers.
    Cafe B is great for lunch, but if that is now what's considered a decent bathroom than things in Campus Town have gotten even worse than I remember!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by RayShimley View Post
    Cafe B is great for lunch, but if that is now what's considered a decent bathroom than things in Campus Town have gotten even worse than I remember!!
    Pretty much no bathrooms in campustown are considered "nice" though. Paddys and Yokes are acceptable. Cy's is still well Cy's. Even the Es Tas' men's bathroom is becoming a dump.



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