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    Kingland Systems update

    I looked up the old thread about this and it was closed (that never seems to happen here). So here is an update for anyone interested. I hope the city council passes this, it'll be great for Ames.

    http://www.cityofames.org/modules/sh...cumentid=13774



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Is there a TL;DR version?


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Explain it to me like I'm 5.



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    Explain it to me like I'm 5.
    Kingland wants some zoning changes to allow for the redevelopment of a block in Campustown. Don't worry, you can still drink from your sippy cup.


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Ha, sorry, forgot to mention it is 26 pages. If you scroll down to around 18-20 there is a sketch of the new building. It's kind of dark/fuzzy but the building looks good.

    They asked the city to waive setback requirements when they first proposed the development. The city asked them to come back with more detail. Kingland met with the Campustown Action Association and Historic Preservation Committee for input. Both gave their approval. They are also asking for some funding from the city in the form of TIF incentives. The building would be 75,000 sq ft, 3 stories, first floor retail, second floor for Kingland and third floor for ISU offices, which ISU has supposedly committed to. Also, the building that houses Jeff's Pizza is not included in the demolition, which is good.



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Kingland wants to do some pretty heft renovations to their buildings on Lincoln Way and Welch. There is some zoning ordinance issue that they want a modification to.

    Architecture/Engineering people care to step in and give a quick rundown to this "step-back" requirement?


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Quote Originally Posted by westlbcyclone View Post
    Architecture/Engineering people care to step in and give a quick rundown to this "step-back" requirement?
    From what I understand(very basics) after Legacy and Cyclone Plaza( both go straight up all the way) went up the city put in regulations that require floors 3 and above to step back from the first two. Trying to stay away from the skyscraper "walled-in" feel. Kingland wants to do 3 stories and already has everything engineered for no step back. Since it's only three floors it sounds like it will probably pass. Also, I vaguely remember hearing Legacy was actually built after the ordinance went in to effect, but they got around it some how by how they classified the floors. Could definitely be wrong about that.



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Looks like Kingland wants to build a big three-story building with retail on the first floor, Kingland office space on the second floor, and lease the third floor for University office space. They also don't want to follow existing rules on how much space is between the curb and the building (or how much upper floors need to "step-back" from lower floors).


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Are there any students on CF that are really opposed to this project? I was reading the ISD article and the president of GSB is making it sound like this project is destroying Campustown.
    Campustown revision - Iowa State Daily: News

    That also led me to the Facebook page "Save Campustown".
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-...18020095019236

    Am I missing something here? Why wouldn't you want a company to renovate and build brand new buildings? Wouldn't a facelift benefit everyone? Especially since this project wouldn't affect any bars, unless I'm mistaken?



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Quote Originally Posted by DSMCy View Post
    Are there any students on CF that are really opposed to this project? I was reading the ISD article and the president of GSB is making it sound like this project is destroying Campustown.
    Campustown revision - Iowa State Daily: News

    That also led me to the Facebook page "Save Campustown".
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-...18020095019236

    Am I missing something here? Why wouldn't you want a company to renovate and build brand new buildings? Wouldn't a facelift benefit everyone? Especially since this project wouldn't affect any bars, unless I'm mistaken?
    Great, a political science student with a "cause." That's everyone's favorite.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DSMCy View Post
    I was reading the ISD article and the president of GSB is making it sound like this project is destroying Campustown.
    Campustown revision - Iowa State Daily: News
    How do you get "making it sound like this project is destroying Campustown" from "At the same time, Spencer Hughes, president of GSB, sent a letter to the Ames City Council on Sunday requesting that the council delay action on the agenda items dealing with the Kingland project in order to give students more time to voice their opinions on the changes." That's literally the only mention of the GSB president in the story ... asking the city for time for the students to voice their opinions. Considering it's the first week of classes and students are just now back on campus, that seems like a logical request. It's certainly not claiming the project is "destroying Campustown."

    The Facebook page, yeah, that's a political science student with a cause, I grant you that.

    (In the interests of openness, why yes, I am related to the GSB president. Why do you ask? )



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    Quote Originally Posted by KidSilverhair View Post
    How do you get "making it sound like this project is destroying Campustown" from "At the same time, Spencer Hughes, president of GSB, sent a letter to the Ames City Council on Sunday requesting that the council delay action on the agenda items dealing with the Kingland project in order to give students more time to voice their opinions on the changes." That's literally the only mention of the GSB president in the story ... asking the city for time for the students to voice their opinions. Considering it's the first week of classes and students are just now back on campus, that seems like a logical request. It's certainly not claiming the project is "destroying Campustown."

    The Facebook page, yeah, that's a political science student with a cause, I grant you that.

    (In the interests of openness, why yes, I am related to the GSB president. Why do you ask? )
    Yep you got me. I think I was mixing the FB comments with the ISD article. Tell your brother/son/nephew/cousin that I'm sorry


    I do agree that the students should have some say but I'm definitely in the group that thinks a CVS or Walgreens would be great. Possibly add in some local businesses or places to grab lunch; this could be a great project for Ames in general.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DSMCy View Post

    Am I missing something here? Why wouldn't you want a company to renovate and build brand new buildings? Wouldn't a facelift benefit everyone? Especially since this project wouldn't affect any bars, unless I'm mistaken?
    Why wouldn't you want beautiful old buildings, including an old theatre torn down for cookie cutter, crappy new construction. I can understand why a 19yr old wouldn't give a xxxx, but I would expect more from the city.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE View Post
    Why wouldn't you want beautiful old buildings, including an old theatre torn down for cookie cutter, crappy new construction. I can understand why a 19yr old wouldn't give a xxxx, but I would expect more from the city.
    Many of those buildings are in poor shape and have structural issues. The old theater has seen its day and will not be a theater again (GSB tried to reopen and failed due to the feasibility of it). There are plenty of bars for students to frequent and the whole first floor of this development will be retail (restaurants/bars, shops, etc.). The office space will be on the second and third floors (Kingland on 2nd floor, ISU on 3rd). Having more people in that area during the day (estimated 200-300 employees this project would result in) will also help the business in campustown.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE View Post
    Why wouldn't you want beautiful old buildings, including an old theatre torn down for cookie cutter, crappy new construction. I can understand why a 19yr old wouldn't give a xxxx, but I would expect more from the city.
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