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    Kingland Systems update

    I looked up the old thread about this and it was closed (that never seems to happen here). So here is an update for anyone interested. I hope the city council passes this, it'll be great for Ames.

    http://www.cityofames.org/modules/sh...cumentid=13774



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Is there a TL;DR version?


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Explain it to me like I'm 5.



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Ha, sorry, forgot to mention it is 26 pages. If you scroll down to around 18-20 there is a sketch of the new building. It's kind of dark/fuzzy but the building looks good.

    They asked the city to waive setback requirements when they first proposed the development. The city asked them to come back with more detail. Kingland met with the Campustown Action Association and Historic Preservation Committee for input. Both gave their approval. They are also asking for some funding from the city in the form of TIF incentives. The building would be 75,000 sq ft, 3 stories, first floor retail, second floor for Kingland and third floor for ISU offices, which ISU has supposedly committed to. Also, the building that houses Jeff's Pizza is not included in the demolition, which is good.



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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Kingland wants to do some pretty heft renovations to their buildings on Lincoln Way and Welch. There is some zoning ordinance issue that they want a modification to.

    Architecture/Engineering people care to step in and give a quick rundown to this "step-back" requirement?


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    Explain it to me like I'm 5.
    Kingland wants some zoning changes to allow for the redevelopment of a block in Campustown. Don't worry, you can still drink from your sippy cup.


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Looks like Kingland wants to build a big three-story building with retail on the first floor, Kingland office space on the second floor, and lease the third floor for University office space. They also don't want to follow existing rules on how much space is between the curb and the building (or how much upper floors need to "step-back" from lower floors).


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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Are there any students on CF that are really opposed to this project? I was reading the ISD article and the president of GSB is making it sound like this project is destroying Campustown.
    Campustown revision - Iowa State Daily: News

    That also led me to the Facebook page "Save Campustown".
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-...18020095019236

    Am I missing something here? Why wouldn't you want a company to renovate and build brand new buildings? Wouldn't a facelift benefit everyone? Especially since this project wouldn't affect any bars, unless I'm mistaken?



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    At first I thought it sounded like a crummy deal for Campustown and the students, but now I'm thinking, as long as Kingland stays committed to maintaining that first floor as retail space and doesn't gouge tenants, it's probably a positive development. It will suck for the year that the current tenants get displaced and the building undergoes construction, but hopefully the strongest businesses will survive the transition in some way and better bars and restaurants will fill in the new, more attractive retail spaces. The only real downside is the potential for that new building to become dominated by chains.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DSMCy View Post
    Are there any students on CF that are really opposed to this project? I was reading the ISD article and the president of GSB is making it sound like this project is destroying Campustown.
    Campustown revision - Iowa State Daily: News

    That also led me to the Facebook page "Save Campustown".
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-...18020095019236

    Am I missing something here? Why wouldn't you want a company to renovate and build brand new buildings? Wouldn't a facelift benefit everyone? Especially since this project wouldn't affect any bars, unless I'm mistaken?
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    Re: Kingland Systems update

    Strangely enough, I'm working on a project at my current customer that involves Kingland.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    At first I thought it sounded like a crummy deal for Campustown and the students, but now I'm thinking, as long as Kingland stays committed to maintaining that first floor as retail space and doesn't gouge tenants, it's probably a positive development. It will suck for the year that the current tenants get displaced and the building undergoes construction, but hopefully the strongest businesses will survive the transition in some way and better bars and restaurants will fill in the new, more attractive retail spaces. The only real downside is the potential for that new building to become dominated by chains.
    I think there are maybe 3 business left in the stretch they plan to demolish, not including their own building: the bar at the corner, a consignment/second hand clothing store and the glass pipe store. The other businesses either closed or moved already.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    I think there are maybe 3 business left in the stretch they plan to demolish, not including their own building: the bar at the corner, a consignment/second hand clothing store and the glass pipe store. The other businesses either closed or moved already.
    Sounds like it's pretty much a win then.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    At first I thought it sounded like a crummy deal for Campustown and the students, but now I'm thinking, as long as Kingland stays committed to maintaining that first floor as retail space and doesn't gouge tenants, it's probably a positive development. It will suck for the year that the current tenants get displaced and the building undergoes construction, but hopefully the strongest businesses will survive the transition in some way and better bars and restaurants will fill in the new, more attractive retail spaces. The only real downside is the potential for that new building to become dominated by chains.
    Well the article said kingland is already on talks with large retail businesses for that space, which does not sound good for small*business



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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnsworth View Post
    Well the article said kimgland is already on talks with large retail businesses for that space, which does not sound good for small*business
    Just imagine if someone put a Walgreens or CVS right near Campustown...THE HORROR. Seriously, it can't be as worthless as a not bong shop



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