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    Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!

    Conspiracy!



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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!

    Please don't even go down that road. Too many actually think it's because he's an ISU commit already.



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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    I heard this talked about on the radio yesterday..no idea where they get their info, but from what I heard he excelled at camps this summer...beyond that, how else would someone outside of games increase or decrease?



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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    Legit, these recruiting services aren't out to get ISU.



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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    Legit, these recruiting services aren't out to get ISU.
    Agreed - BUT, I think he was dropped because he committed to a school like ISU. In other words, not a top-20 program. Obviously if he commits to ISU, he's not good enough to play for a top school, so obviously his ranking should be lowered behind the true top school players.

    If he was an Alabama or Oklahoma commit, I bet you that he wouldn't have dropped so much.


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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Please don't even go down that road. Too many actually think it's because he's an ISU commit already.
    If its not that, what is it?

    I tend to shy away from conspiracy theories, but there's little doubt in my mind that he would be ranked higher had he committed to Notre Dame. These ratings are much like any other. People's emotional perceptions spill into them and override rational thought. There are absolutely people who look at Lazard and think "if he committed to Iowa State he can't be that good".

    It's not that they're out to get ISU, but I can't for the life of me believe that when a highly ranked recruit commits to a school that isn't a traditional power that it doesn't affect how these folks perceive their abilities.


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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    Quote Originally Posted by CapnCy View Post
    I heard this talked about on the radio yesterday..no idea where they get their info, but from what I heard he excelled at camps this summer...beyond that, how else would someone outside of games increase or decrease?
    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Cy View Post
    Agreed - BUT, I think he was dropped because he committed to a school like ISU. In other words, not a top-20 program. Obviously if he commits to ISU, he's not good enough to play for a top school, so obviously his ranking should be lowered behind the true top school players.

    If he was an Alabama or Oklahoma commit, I bet you that he wouldn't have dropped so much.
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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
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    Dang that's a good GPA.



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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    4.65
    I agree that's what is holding him back and it's understandable but his reported fastest 40 time that I could find was 4.68 when he was tabbed #1



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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Cy View Post
    Agreed - BUT, I think he was dropped because he committed to a school like ISU. In other words, not a top-20 program. Obviously if he commits to ISU, he's not good enough to play for a top school, so obviously his ranking should be lowered behind the true top school players.

    If he was an Alabama or Oklahoma commit, I bet you that he wouldn't have dropped so much.
    I actually agree with this. I don't think it's any kind of real conspiracy, just a bias towards perennial top 20 teams. Like it or not, every kid on ISU is perceived as inferior to kids at Alabama, LSU, tOSU, etc in the media. The way these talking heads gush over the SEC, I don't think they even consider kids from other cnferences football players anymore.



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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    100% legit. He committed to Iowa State and than moved to #1 in the country. Was it a conspiracy in our favor at that time?

    Allen Lazard has attended every major camp in the country this year and competed against the best. The scouts were able to see him and compare him with the others. They see him as the 5th best WR in the country, which is still the best recruit we've ever landed. It's no more or less than that.

    Also need to point out that while he did drop from #1 to #5, rivals still ranks him much higher than the other scouting services do. He also went from the 25th best overall player in the country to the 37th. So he really didn't drop much at all.


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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    Nothing to do with who he is committed to, if he would have ran a 4.5, he'd still be #1 and have his 5th star.



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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    Why would anyone drop, when none of the players have played a single down of organized football so far this year except maybe in one or two camps and all-star games? Plus, he did well in the camps and games he participated in.


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    Re: Rivals dropping Lazard in rankings - legit or a conspiracy!?

    I'm not going to respond individually to any conspiracy theorists on this one. Take off the tinfoil hat and go get some sun.



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