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    Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Here is a good read from ESPN:

    Summer Shootaround: Big 12 - ESPN



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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Quote Originally Posted by nallen34 View Post
    Here is a good read from ESPN:

    Summer Shootaround: Big 12 - ESPN
    Wow, KU and OSU are absolutely stacked this year. ISU and Baylor should be pretty good teams. Everyone else will be average to very bad.



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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Aside from those 4 teams, this conference could be terrible this year. ISU has to show up in non conference or get big wins against the other 3. BU I am not too worried about, KU and OSU on the other hand....



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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Quote Originally Posted by isutrevman View Post
    Wow, KU and OSU are absolutely stacked this year. ISU and Baylor should be pretty good teams. Everyone else will be average to very bad.
    I feel like the top 4 are going to be solid and some team will surprise people and be a respectable #5 in the league. We'll get 5 teams in the tourney



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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Good read, thanks for posting.



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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Quote Originally Posted by CyTwins View Post
    I feel like the top 4 are going to be solid and some team will surprise people and be a respectable #5 in the league. We'll get 5 teams in the tourney
    I really think that will be OU. I'll hop on the CW love-wagon for Lon Kruger, dude is legit.


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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Anybody have insider and can tell us where Fraschilla has us ranked in Big 12 power rankings, and what he said? It's off on the sidebar to the right. He has KU number 1 but that's all you can see without insider.




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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    I honestly can't see anyone else besides OU being that respectable 5th place team. We could seriously lose all 6 games vs the top 3, and still go 12-6 in league play. That's how bad this league is this year.


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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneinpdx View Post
    Anybody have insider and can tell us where Fraschilla has us ranked in Big 12 power rankings, and what he said? It's off on the sidebar to the right. He has KU number 1 but that's all you can see without insider.
    Here are Fran's Rankings:

    1. Kansas
    2. Okla St
    3. Baylor
    4. Oklahoma
    5. Iowa State
    6. Texas
    7. Kansas St
    8. TCU
    9. West Virginia
    10. Texas Tech


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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard4Cy View Post
    I honestly can't see anyone else besides OU being that respectable 5th place team. We could seriously lose all 6 games vs the top 3, and still go 12-6 in league play. That's how bad this league is this year.

    I wish road wins were that easy in conference.



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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Quote Originally Posted by nallen34 View Post
    Here is a good read from ESPN:

    Summer Shootaround: Big 12 - ESPN
    I'm going to love when Fred proves all these naysayers again by finishing higher than projected. Can not wait until the season starts...although I hope to enjoy fb too...



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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    I don't know if its just my Cardinal and Gold glasses, but why am I one of the few that doesn't feel that the Big12 is as bad as some suggest? Hoiberg, Huggins, Weber, Kruger, Smith, ...just to name a few are quality coaches and their rosters may not be KU or OkSt- loaded, but they still have Div. 1 players and will have competitive teams. Would hope the idea that KU and OKSt could have very few losses will not totally downplay the league in general. I don't know, maybe I just remember how hard it is to win road games, and that it will always be used as a measuring stick against a team making the tourney. Illinois, Purdue, Penn State, Minn, Northwestern, Nebr...are they really 'that' much better than the Big12's bottom 2/3 when you think about it?



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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Quote Originally Posted by CyTwins View Post
    I feel like the top 4 are going to be solid and some team will surprise people and be a respectable #5 in the league. We'll get 5 teams in the tourney
    1.osu
    2.ku
    3.baylor
    4.ISU
    5.wvu
    6.KSU
    7.Texas
    8.Oklahoma
    9.Tech
    10.TCU
    I would guess worst case 4 Best case 7 for NCAA depending on how the young talent pans out.



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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Quote Originally Posted by westlbcyclone View Post
    I really think that will be OU. I'll hop on the CW love-wagon for Lon Kruger, dude is legit.
    Clearly reading too much CW


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    Re: Big 12 Summer Shootaround

    Quote Originally Posted by allfourcy View Post
    I don't know if its just my Cardinal and Gold glasses, but why am I one of the few that doesn't feel that the Big12 is as bad as some suggest? Hoiberg, Huggins, Weber, Kruger, Smith, ...just to name a few are quality coaches and their rosters may not be KU or OkSt- loaded, but they still have Div. 1 players and will have competitive teams. Would hope the idea that KU and OKSt could have very few losses will not totally downplay the league in general. I don't know, maybe I just remember how hard it is to win road games, and that it will always be used as a measuring stick against a team making the tourney. Illinois, Purdue, Penn State, Minn, Northwestern, Nebr...are they really 'that' much better than the Big12's bottom 2/3 when you think about it?
    I agree



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