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    Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    With recent news of the MLS planning on expanding to four more teams, it got me thinking if Des Moines would have any shot at landing one of them. You can read more about the MLS expansion here: MLS will add four expansion teams by 2020 - Soccer - SI.com

    Clearly, especially if you read the article, there is a very, very low chance that this would happen right now. However, it got me thinking about whether or not the state of Iowa would EVER be able to support a major professional sports team in the future? We certainly have a lot of support for our university's athletic programs for a state of our size, and have had some decent success with supporting lower level pro teams as well.

    Personally, I don't think it would ever happen unless we see Des Moines grow tremendously within the next several years. I think we would be able to get good fan support (depending on the sport), but the television market isn't large enough. If there's anything I've learned from the whole conference expansion fiasco, it's that TV market$ matter.

    Curious to see what the rest of you fanatics think about the subject though.



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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Im not sure which is the easier no. This or the "would Steel Jantz start this year" thread.



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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Im not sure which is the easier no. This or the "would Steel Jantz start this year" thread.
    The answer is this one. Sam richardson might be a bust. Des moines is never going to be big enough.



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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    I agree DSM isn't big enough, and with so many pro teams within 3-5 hours, I really think it would be hard to get a city behind a team. You could easily make the argument for it, but a lifelong Bears/Vikings/etc fan isn't going to jump.

    An MLS team would be our best chance, but even thats a stretch. I used to go to Menace games when I was younger, and the fans are few and far between. If we packed Waukee or Valley or wherever they play now, they might consider us, but I don't see it happening.



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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    The thread title says Major ​professional sports team. What is this soccer you speak of?

    beat me to it Carl ;)



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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Quote Originally Posted by JackDog View Post
    The thread title says Major ​professional sports team. What is this soccer you speak of?

    beat me to it Carl ;)




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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    It will never happen nor do i want it to. If for some reason we got an NBA team, Iowa and Iowa State basketball attendance would suffer worse than Oklahoma and Okie Lite's basketball attendance.


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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Quote Originally Posted by CysRage View Post
    It will never happen nor do i want it to. If for some reason we got an NBA team, Iowa and Iowa State basketball attendance would suffer worse than Oklahoma and Okie Lite's basketball attendance.
    Have they had a significant drop in attendance since the Thunder came to OKC? Guess I haven't paid attention, but it probably doesn't help that both their basketball programs haven't been that great (minus this past season) the past 5 years or so either.



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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Whats this MLS you speak of?



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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    I'm sure this list is incomplete but let's list the professional (minor) teams in DSM right now.

    DSM Menace
    DSM Bucs
    Iowa Stars
    Iowa Energy
    Iowa Cubs

    So in DSM, a region with roughly 500,000 people you have 5 teams, one for every 100,000 people.

    Now let's look at the Twin Cities as a comparison.

    Twins
    Vikings
    Wild
    Wolves
    Thunder
    Saints
    Lynx
    Swarm

    In the TC you have 3.4 million. So that's one teams for every 425,000 people even including the "small" teams like the Lynx, Swarm, Saints, and Thunder.

    I wish DSM could get a pro soccer team but in reality I know the DSM market is way too saturated as it is. Iowa has too many teams for the total population. Hell, even MN only has one affiliated baseball team. I think we have
    5. I LOVE how Iowans support their college teams. I LOVE that our players bleed cardinal and gold and don't move because someone offered a bigger contract. I want support to remain with them.


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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Quote Originally Posted by mtowncyclone13 View Post
    I'm sure this list is incomplete but let's list the professional (minor) teams in DSM right now.

    DSM Menace
    DSM Bucs
    Iowa Stars
    Iowa Energy
    Iowa Cubs

    So in DSM, a region with roughly 500,000 people you have 5 teams, one for every 100,000 people.

    Now let's look at the Twin Cities as a comparison.

    Twins
    Vikings
    Wild
    Wolves
    Thunder
    Saints
    Lynx
    Swarm

    In the TC you have 3.4 million. So that's one teams for every 425,000 people even including the "small" teams like the Lynx, Swarm, Saints, and Thunder.

    I wish DSM could get a pro soccer team but in reality I know the DSM market is way too saturated as it is. Iowa has too many teams for the total population. Hell, even MN only has one affiliated baseball team. I think we have
    5. I LOVE how Iowans support their college teams. I LOVE that our players bleed cardinal and gold and don't move because someone offered a bigger contract. I want support to remain with them.
    You forgot the Iowa Wild. I know, I know...... Hockey?


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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Now let's look at the Twin Cities as a comparison.

    Twins
    Vikings
    Wild
    Wolves
    Thunder
    Saints
    Lynx
    Swarm

    In the TC you have 3.4 million. So that's one teams for every 425,000 people even including the "small" teams like the Lynx, Swarm, Saints, and Thunder.

    Actually, Lynx is not a small team - the average attendance is about 8k, which is a good size plus from what I've seen people are paying to get good seats instead of coming because of free tickets. Not sure about Swarm. Saints are definitely small - it was never intended to be big - people just want to have fun. Thunder attracts about 1-2k - hard to attract people when they play so far away in the northern burbs (except this Spring where they play in the dome) plus it's NASL - not MLS level soccer.



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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Quote Originally Posted by mtowncyclone13 View Post
    I'm sure this list is incomplete but let's list the professional (minor) teams in DSM right now.

    DSM Menace
    DSM Bucs
    Iowa Stars
    Iowa Energy
    Iowa Cubs

    So in DSM, a region with roughly 500,000 people you have 5 teams, one for every 100,000 people.

    Now let's look at the Twin Cities as a comparison.

    Twins
    Vikings
    Wild
    Wolves
    Thunder
    Saints
    Lynx
    Swarm

    In the TC you have 3.4 million. So that's one teams for every 425,000 people even including the "small" teams like the Lynx, Swarm, Saints, and Thunder.

    I wish DSM could get a pro soccer team but in reality I know the DSM market is way too saturated as it is. Iowa has too many teams for the total population. Hell, even MN only has one affiliated baseball team. I think we have
    5. I LOVE how Iowans support their college teams. I LOVE that our players bleed cardinal and gold and don't move because someone offered a bigger contract. I want support to remain with them.
    Corrections:

    You're two AHL franchises behind - It is Iowa Wild now. Also missing Iowa Barnstormers.


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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Quote Originally Posted by capitalcityguy View Post
    Corrections:

    You're two AHL franchises behind - It is Iowa Wild now. Also missing Iowa Barnstormers.
    Also you failed to include the Valkyrie in your TC list.

    Minnesota Valkyrie - Legends Football League

    In all seriousness, they will probably go under shortly.

    I believe that each of Des Moines, St. Paul and Minneapolis have their own Roller Girl leagues. It's surprising how many fans the leagues up here have.


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    Re: Major Professional Sports Team in Iowa

    Quote Originally Posted by capitalcityguy View Post
    Corrections:

    You're two AHL franchises behind - It is Iowa Wild now. Also missing Iowa Barnstormers.
    Also, Menace and Bucs are both amateur teams, not professional.



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