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    Re: Josh Lenz

    As a impartial Cowboys fan looking at the NFC North the Packers have the best WR corp by far. The only argument you can make against them is they have the best QB in the division throwing to then while the other 3 teams have meh QB's. But that is not much of an argument.



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    Here's a fun stat from last year.
    For the season, Minnesota had 8 receiving TD's made by wide receivers
    Detroit had 15
    Chicago had 17
    Green Bay had 35
    Gee, you don't think some other factor may be at play there, other than the quality of the WRs?

    Not necessarily even disagreeing with you... Just saying to use that as proof for your argument is ridiculous



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    So, what does all this have to do with Josh Lenz? Is there some point I'm not seeing about how this helps/hurts his chances?



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    With the numbers he put up at his Pro Day I think he has a shot. There's obviously more to it that talent, but he's a hard worker and reliable too.



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik4Cy View Post
    As a impartial Cowboys fan looking at the NFC North the Packers have the best WR corp by far. The only argument you can make against them is they have the best QB in the division throwing to then while the other 3 teams have meh QB's. But that is not much of an argument.

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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    You do know that the Vikings got Jennings? While I think Jordy Nelson is good, I dont think the Packers have the best WR's...Id probably give the edge to the Lions.
    Jennings may not look as good now that he will be on the receiving end of passes from Ponder.



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    Here's a fun stat from last year.
    For the season, Minnesota had 8 receiving TD's made by wide receivers
    Detroit had 15
    Chicago had 17
    Green Bay had 35

    Green bay has the best wideouts in the North. It's not even close.
    They also have arguably the best QB. Put Rodgers on the Lions, and Stafford on the Packers, and I bet the Lions have the edge.



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Well I hope he makes the team because if he does I'm gettng his jersey. Bears WR's have been plagued by injuries lately. Bennett is good, but hasn't played nearly a whole season lately, Alshon Jeffrey was looking promising too, but also went down last year. After the top three of Marshall, Bennett, Jeffrey, it's a free for all I think, but there are 12 WR's on the roster right now, so there' a lot of competition.



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    They also have arguably the best QB. Put Rodgers on the Lions, and Stafford on the Packers, and I bet the Lions have the edge.
    You make a compelling argument. But stats don't lie. Those receivers still have to catch the ball and run after the catch. Rodgers just makes it easier for them. I'm sure he would make the Lions receivers better as well. Peyton is another QB that you see this happen all the time with. Brandon Stokley comes to mind. When he was with Peyton, Peyton made him better, as soon as he was with another QB he wasn't as good. Jevon Walker - once he left the Packers he didn't contribute on the Broncos at all. So yes, it can be the system that makes the player better. But, it is stated as a whole, which team has the best core. Stats say Packers.



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    They also have arguably the best QB. Put Rodgers on the Lions, and Stafford on the Packers, and I bet the Lions have the edge.
    yes, Rodgers is better than the other guys, but look at the disparity. Is he that much better? The Packers have more than double the number of WR TDs than the next best team. Certainly Rodgers accounts for some of that, but that's a giant difference. (uggh, I feel dirty arguing for Green Bay)


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    Re: Josh Lenz

    How did this devolve into a "how great is Aaron Rodgers?" thread?

    Lenz could make the team on Special Teams and maybe be a backup slot receiver. We know he has wheels. Would not be a bad thing for him to get Coached up on the practice squad for a year either.


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    Re: Josh Lenz

    I think Rodgers is overhyped and Packers receiving corps underhyped. Who was their backup who played a game, had fabulous numbers, and then a big contract from someone, maybe the Seahawks? Lots of qbs in the league would have better numbers if you stuck them in the Packers offense.

    The Bears have needed more depth in their receiving corps as long as I can remember. Difference between them and Packers seems that if you shut down the Bears best receiver, the others aren't reliable whereas someone like Jordy Nelson put up huge numbers as another option from as premier receiver. Maybe Lenz can be an additional threat?



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Quote Originally Posted by carvers4math View Post
    I think Rodgers is overhyped and Packers receiving corps underhyped. Who was their backup who played a game, had fabulous numbers, and then a big contract from someone, maybe the Seahawks? Lots of qbs in the league would have better numbers if you stuck them in the Packers offense.

    The Bears have needed more depth in their receiving corps as long as I can remember. Difference between them and Packers seems that if you shut down the Bears best receiver, the others aren't reliable whereas someone like Jordy Nelson put up huge numbers as another option from as premier receiver. Maybe Lenz can be an additional threat?
    Matt Flynn, who then got beat out in training camp by Russell Wilson



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Quote Originally Posted by WhatchaGonnaDo View Post
    Matt Flynn, who then got beat out in training camp by Russell Wilson
    Thanks. That's the guy.



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    Re: Josh Lenz

    Quote Originally Posted by WhatchaGonnaDo View Post
    Matt Flynn, who then got beat out in training camp by Russell Wilson
    Russell Wilson has wheels and is accurate as a passer. No surprise.

    I think it is interesting how close Josh's Dubuque family is to Chicago. Hope it works.


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