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    Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    I was having a discussion with one of my co-workers the other day that kind of opened my eyes a bit. Being the true cyclone fan I am, I was picking this years team to be a 4 to 5 win team....maybe. I know we are young and inexperienced (for the most part) and the BIGXII is strong as usual. He suggested that a bowl game should be the expectation every year, regardless of who we lose in the offseason. He got me thinking, and I believe he is right. Ive perused the boards for quite a bit and the general consensus is that as long as the season isn't a total disaster (3 wins or less), then we can look forward to an improved team in 2014. (By no means am I saying everyone thinks this way, but the majority does). When you look at the depth chart, there is only 1 true freshman on the roster (Alton Meeks at LB). This is a sign of experience within the program, not necessarily game time experience, but experience to put on weight and learn the schemes of our system nonetheless.

    I guess my point is when is it time to stop thinking of "rebuilding" (in a year to year sense, not an overall rebuilding plan over the course of 7 or 8 years) and time to start thinking of "reloading." Think about it like this; when was the time you were disappointed with our D over the course of a year? My answer is NEVER. It seems like it doesn't matter who or what Wally has to work with, they always seem to get the job done, as in give our offense opportunities to score and put us in a position to win. Im not saying we can easily replace guys like AK and JK, and im sure we will take our lumps early, but the guys will be ready to go and Wally will have the D figured out.

    That only leaves the offense, which, by everyones opinion, including my own, should be better this year. With a guy like coach K at the helm of our OLine, I feel we can finally start becoming a better offense than 85th in the country. I am at a point where I feel 6 wins should be looked at as the minimum (im sure im not the only one).

    Sorry if this rambled a bit, Just had to get some stuff out there and see what everyone else thought.

    GO CYCLONES!



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    The "mentality" and "expectations" of the fans are irrelevant, as long as they buy tickets - what matters in what takes place within the team - on the practice field, in the weight room, in the meeting rooms. Case in point: Stanford. When they hired Harbaugh, the fans' "expectations" didn't change one bit (still low), but the culture within the football team sure did.



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    In the last Cyclone decade, I have seen enough three and outs to last a lifetime...


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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    Fair Point



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    statistically you should always go for it on fourth down.

    that would get guys excited!


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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    We are not a team that just gets to reload with new talent, considering we've had 1 season above .500 in the last 7 I'd say we're a ways away from being able to just expect bowl games just because we're Iowa State.




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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    I think the expectations for reloading instead of rebuilding are there for the basketball program...the football program has to prove it to me this year though. I do expect to somehow get to a bowl game but wouldn't be surprised if we didn't...I would be shocked if our basketball team doesn't make the tourney every year CFH is there. If CPR gets there this year I will expect the same from him but this is a very big year for our program IMO



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    The fans are doing their job. Season tickets near sold out, stadium near or at sellout for every game, tailgating lots in short supply, donation levels going up.

    Time for the program to match what the fans have done.



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    We need to do more than barely qualify to make it an expectation. We have scraped by on the way to our bowl all three years CPR has gone.



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    we will never be on the higher level of college football...........Basketball we will and are



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    Quote Originally Posted by isuforlife View Post
    we will never be on the higher level of college football...........Basketball we will and are
    Never is a long time.



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    By all accounts this is a "rebuilding" or "reloading" year on both sides of the ball. I expect Rhoads to take a small step back this year with a lineup full of first-time starters at highly-scrutinized positions. With that said, I do think in 2014 Rhoads has the potential roster to take us to a better bowl than he's ever taken us to before. Seven regular season wins will be my minimum expectation in 2014. This year, who the heck knows.



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    Quote Originally Posted by StratCY View Post
    I was having a discussion with one of my co-workers the other day that kind of opened my eyes a bit. Being the true cyclone fan I am, I was picking this years team to be a 4 to 5 win team....maybe. I know we are young and inexperienced (for the most part) and the BIGXII is strong as usual. He suggested that a bowl game should be the expectation every year, regardless of who we lose in the offseason. He got me thinking, and I believe he is right. Ive perused the boards for quite a bit and the general consensus is that as long as the season isn't a total disaster (3 wins or less), then we can look forward to an improved team in 2014. (By no means am I saying everyone thinks this way, but the majority does). When you look at the depth chart, there is only 1 true freshman on the roster (Alton Meeks at LB). This is a sign of experience within the program, not necessarily game time experience, but experience to put on weight and learn the schemes of our system nonetheless.

    I guess my point is when is it time to stop thinking of "rebuilding" (in a year to year sense, not an overall rebuilding plan over the course of 7 or 8 years) and time to start thinking of "reloading." Think about it like this; when was the time you were disappointed with our D over the course of a year? My answer is NEVER. It seems like it doesn't matter who or what Wally has to work with, they always seem to get the job done, as in give our offense opportunities to score and put us in a position to win. Im not saying we can easily replace guys like AK and JK, and im sure we will take our lumps early, but the guys will be ready to go and Wally will have the D figured out.

    That only leaves the offense, which, by everyones opinion, including my own, should be better this year. With a guy like coach K at the helm of our OLine, I feel we can finally start becoming a better offense than 85th in the country. I am at a point where I feel 6 wins should be looked at as the minimum (im sure im not the only one).

    Sorry if this rambled a bit, Just had to get some stuff out there and see what everyone else thought.

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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    Quote Originally Posted by isuforlife View Post
    we will never be on the higher level of college football...........Basketball we will and are
    THIS is the ****** attitude that needs to leave.

    I've only been a Cyclone fan since 1983, and this is the most exciting time I've ever experienced. There were flashes of greatness in the early 2000's, but it was fleeting and felt like it.

    But now Cyclone Nation is more excited than ever. Look at the increase in season ticket sales in the last 5 years. There's threads on here about the influx of donors causing parking problems.

    I guarantee that CPR and the fellows on the team feel the same way



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    Re: Is it time for a change in cyclone fan mentality?

    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post
    THIS is the ****** attitude that needs to leave.
    I respectfully disagree. The ****ty attitudes will evaporate if PR starts getting to serious bowls and legitimately contend for a league title. The ****ty attitudes aren't hurting the program. Attendance is at an all time high. Facilities are beginning to look legit. And the product on the field is getting better.


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