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    Iowa @ Iowa State

    sparked by the CCL vs PTL thread...

    The likely (my guess) lineups and rotations:

    Kane vs Gesell - ISU
    Thomas vs Marble - Iowa (experience... I like Thomas in the end)
    Hogue vs Uthoff - Iowa (just a gut feeling - I think Uthoff will have a big year)
    Ejim vs White - ISU (really, really close. I'm sure Iowa fans will freak seeing this)
    Niang vs Woodbury - ISU (sort of an apples/ oranges comparison, but I'll take Niang's "do everything" game to AW's perceived defense).

    Starting lineups - slight edge to ISU. Remember the game is early in the year, and a guy like Thomas may still be getting a feel for D1 competition. Marble has good length to guard him with, he can score in a variety of ways - If I'm Iowa I'm going AT Thomas with Marble, and testing his D. Kane should be able to best Gesell.... but thinking as I type, maybe I have Kane guard Marble when Iowa has the possession, and maybe Iowa will opt to keep that matchup on the other end. Uthoff at the SF will make Iowa a really tall team.

    Rotation matchups:
    Palo/ Morris vs Clemmons - ISU (close)
    Bluford/ SDW/ Long vs Oglesby/ Jok - ISU all day long. I like Jok to be able to sink some 3s if he's left open, but until I see him get to the rim, and play defense at D1, I'll pick against him. Oglesby... he does one thing... so don't let him do it.
    Edozie/ Gibson vs. Basabe/ Olaseni/ McCabe - Iowa (If Iowa bench bigs are awake, I like them here, agains until I see Gibson do anything besides "go left" and see Edozie at all. If it's a WWE match - I'd take Edozie - he looks huge).

    Overall, I think Iowa has a touch more depth, especially if you consider their experience in the starting lineup - especially at the post positions, and ISU post talent drops off quick. If our posts get into foul trouble it will be scary.

    the home court advantage goes to the good guys, of course.

    ISU by 6.

    Ok, tell me I'm nuts...



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    I agree with most of them, although it's hard to figure this out when we don't even know who will start and how big or small we will play. I like DeAndre Kane to be the x-factor in a lot of games this year. He has a lot of experience, great athletic ability and I believe with Fred an NBA future.



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    Matt Thomas could cement his hype and become an instant legend if he bury's the Hawks in year one, very similar situation with Royce and what became his "coming out" game against Iowa in 2011. I Expect to see Kane/Hogue on Marble and Thomas guarding Gesell or Uthoff.



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    I imagine the nonconference will be similar to the past couple of years where the team is getting comfortable with each other and our rotation won't be completely figured out yet. Iowa is going to be tough. If it was at Carver or a neutral site game I would pick Iowa, but since it's in Hilton I think ISU pulls it off in a very close one.



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    I'm not as concerned about Thomas taking a long time to adjust to the D1 level like a lot of people are. It sounds like the kid can flat out shoot which is more than I can say for most of the Hawks. I think that by the time this game rolls around the good guys will be functioning as a very good offensive unit. Hoiberg is great at creating space for his players, and with all of our weapons and shooters I think that we will be able to put up some good numbers in the game. I guess if I was concerned about the newcomers at all, it would be more curiosity as to how their defense will be (since the Cap City League really doesn't tell us much). Can our newcomers gel as a cohesive defensive unit? Either way, I like our chances against the Hawks IN AMES.



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    Two more things to add to our advantage.

    Fred > Fran
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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by peteypie View Post
    Two more things to add to our advantage.

    Fred > Fran
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    Haha... Did you forget the fact that Fran does things the right way. He is head and shoulders better than Hoiberg.



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by cycfan1 View Post
    Haha... Did you forget the fact that Fran does things the right way. He is head and shoulders better than Hoiberg.
    Somebody bolt Fran's chair to the floor!
    I'm sure Iowa will take full advantage of that Summer European trip they're taking this year to try and mesh all these great players they supposedly have now. They can try and play big but if ISU can get out and run...it may force Iowa to go smaller.



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    is white really as good as ejim?



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    is white really as good as ejim?
    In last year's game he was better but in general I would say they are close. Depends on the game.



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    is white really as good as ejim?
    Ejim is more versatile on offense but overall maybe equal offense. Ejim is a better rebounder, nothing against White but he's the best rebounder on either of these teams in a long time, maybe since Reggie Evans.



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    is white really as good as ejim?
    Lolnope



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    is white really as good as ejim?
    At flopping? Absolutely; White owns Ejim in that department



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    is white really as good as ejim?
    I'd take Ejim 10 times out of 10 unless my ears need cleaning.



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    Re: Iowa @ Iowa State

    I envision Kane guarding the opponent's best perimeter player. In this case, that's Marble. Also, having been to a couple CCL games, I can't see Hogue checking any guards. He's definitely more forward than guard.


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