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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Also, Iowa is awful on the road. Throw in how hostile Hilton will be and I think the hawks won't be able to handle it.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Hilton will be right up there as one of the most hostile venues they'll go to all year, no doubt. It'll be interesting watching them in that Battle for Atlantic (or whatever it's called). We'll all learn a lot more about them after they go for a couple games there. I'll still reserve judgement until I see both teams play a few.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    Ejim is more experienced and has played in more big games than any Iowa player. Kane is as experienced or more than any player they have. People act like Iowa is a senior laden Tom Izzo team and ISU isn't starting a senior who led the Big 12 in boards and a 24 year old point guard.
    I agree with what you're saying, but you're forgetting that Iowa also has a 3 year starter going on 4, in Marble. Ejim > Marble though.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

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    Iowa will not be favored in Hilton
    If any team other than UM or KU are favored in Hilton next year will be a great opportunity to make some easy cash.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by cycfan1 View Post
    If any team other than UM or KU are favored in Hilton next year will be a great opportunity to make some easy cash.
    I don't see many people betting against ISU at Hilton. Even KU after last years debacle(s).



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyinthenorth View Post
    I agree with what you're saying, but you're forgetting that Iowa also has a 3 year starter going on 4, in Marble. Ejim > Marble though.
    I didn't forget that. Ejim has 4 NCAA games and led a major conference in rebounding, Marble has zero and got benched at times last year. Ejim is the most experienced player on the court going up against "team mega experience" next year, Kane has played more ball than any of them as well.

    I look at Marble and White, they're less experienced than Kane and Ejim but also talented players. I look at the rest of their team, some untalented upperclassmen I wouldn't want taking up space on ISU's roster and some sophomores who weren't impressive compared to Niang, freshman ranked below our freshman. I don't get their optimism anywhere past finally being a tournament team next year which is now the norm for Hoiball.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    I didn't forget that. Ejim has 4 NCAA games and led a major conference in rebounding, Marble has zero and got benched at times last year. Ejim is the most experienced player on the court going up against "team mega experience" next year, Kane has played more ball than any of them as well.

    I look at Marble and White, they're less experienced than Kane and Ejim but also talented players. I look at the rest of their team, some untalented upperclassmen I wouldn't want taking up space on ISU's roster and some sophomores who weren't impressive compared to Niang, freshman ranked below our freshman. I don't get their optimism anywhere past finally being a tournament team next year which is now the norm for Hoiball.
    They think getting to the NCAA tournament without more than one transfer = winning an NCAA title with more than one. It's silly but it's their world.



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