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    CCL/PTL comparison

    Okay, honest question here:

    How does the PTL compare to the CCL? I quickly looked over the box scores for the PTL and was less than impressed. Iowa players rarely break 30 points and it seems like nobody is particularly dominating. It seems from my perspective that over half of the ISU players have better stat lines in the CCL than the best Iowa player in the PTL. Are the game lengths different? I'm just looking for more information.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonespiker33 View Post
    Okay, honest question here:

    How does the PTL compare to the CCL? I quickly looked over the box scores for the PTL and was less than impressed. Iowa players rarely break 30 points and it seems like nobody is particularly dominating. It seems from my perspective that over half of the ISU players have better stat lines in the CCL than the best Iowa player in the PTL. Are the game lengths different? I'm just looking for more information.
    ISU players have talent and Iowa players don't



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Based on the players (or lack of) involved, I'd have to say they're roughly equal (although I don't know what that means). I don't know why scoring is different - other than just the philosophy of the programs they play for.

    I was dreaming the other day about how to make a more competitive summer league. I think it would be cool to have Drake, ISU, UNI, and Iowa players all in one league - games played in Marshalltown (probably the most central location with a decent gym and parking), and maybe it could even include some MCC JuCos, etc. I know it's just a dream, but it would be double the competition level of either the CCL or PTL.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by CyTwins View Post
    ISU players have talent and Iowa players don't
    Boom!
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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    The PTL claims that there is defense played. I've never watched a game, so I have no idea.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by jsb View Post
    The PTL claims that there is defense played. I've never watched a game, so I have no idea.
    I've seen many PTL games and that is not the case.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by jsb View Post
    The PTL claims that there is defense played. I've never watched a game, so I have no idea.
    Iowa fan will claim this is the reason why the scoring is different, but I've seen PTL games and there isn't much difference at all. Summer league d is the same every summer for every league I've seen.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    I could care less but I really hope we beat them this year. I would hate to see them rattle off 3 in a row versus us, which could happen if we lose at home this year.

    I think we'll be fine next season but may not have gelled by early Dec.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    I could care less but I really hope we beat them this year. I would hate to see them rattle off 3 in a row versus us, which could happen if we lose at home this year.

    I think we'll be fine next season but may not have gelled by early Dec.
    So we automatically are going to lose in 2014? Hmmmmm



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    The PTL has good UNI players while the CCL has very poor Drake players. Big difference in competition.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonespiker33 View Post
    Okay, honest question here:

    How does the PTL compare to the CCL? I quickly looked over the box scores for the PTL and was less than impressed. Iowa players rarely break 30 points and it seems like nobody is particularly dominating. It seems from my perspective that over half of the ISU players have better stat lines in the CCL than the best Iowa player in the PTL. Are the game lengths different? I'm just looking for more information.
    both leagues are glorified pickup games with no defense. The eastern Iowa media wants us to believe they're amazing barometers for Iowa mbb fortunes

    When a 35-yr old Jason Price (ex-Hawk hack guard) can routinely score 20 pts/game in the PTL, you know these leagues are a joke



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuts4Cy View Post
    The PTL has good UNI players while the CCL has very poor Drake players. Big difference in competition.
    This is a real thing?



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuts4Cy View Post
    The PTL has good UNI players while the CCL has very poor Drake players. Big difference in competition.
    UNI players haven't participated in a couple years



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuts4Cy View Post
    The PTL has good UNI players while the CCL has very poor Drake players. Big difference in competition.
    Are you sure they have UNI players. I'm pretty sure that Jacobson wouldn't let his players play in the PTL a couple of years ago. Not sure if that has changed.



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    Re: CCL/PTL comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by CyTwins View Post
    So we automatically are going to lose in 2014? Hmmmmm
    I guess you missed where I said "it could happen".

    Obviously we will always have a shot but road wins against quality teams early in the year don't come easy.

    Same could be said for 2013-14. Even though they have pretty much everything coming back from a team tha beat us last year and we have a lot of new players, hopefully Hilton will be too much to overcome.



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