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    Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    Hey Guys,

    Longtime "lurker," first time poster, Loyal Son, here. I had a discussion with some buddies the other day about who the "Best All-Around" coach is in the Big XII. Factored into this are Tenure, Wins-Losses, Fan Support, Staff, and Upward Progression. I recall Athlon sports did a piece similar to this, but they didn't place a lot of weight on past success or intangibles. I'm interested to see what your thoughts are regarding this discussion.


    Just for S&G, here is my list: (I tried to keep the Rhoads koolaid thirst in check as best as I could)


    1) Bill Snyder - KSU (The man is a legend, and has found recent success despite changes in NCAAF landscape)

    2) Gary Patterson - TCU (My Wildcard...The BCS Bowls speak for themselves, will compete in Big XII if recruiting stays successful)

    3) Bob Stoops - OU (Early 2000's success and the football culture in Norman in unparalled)

    4) Mack Brown - UT (Same as above, but what have you shown me lately?)

    5) Mike Gundy - OSU (Had the Pokes one game within an NC berth in 2011 and has been a consistent winner and leader down in Stillwater)

    6) Paul Rhoads - ISU (The gameday atmosphere, the upsets, the facilities, the staff, and the optimism have never been better in Ames. Hoping to take that next step)

    7) Art Briles - Baylor (Has bred a high octane offense and had the benefit of one of the best athletes of all time at QB. Still looking to take that "Next Step")

    8) Dana Holgorsen - WVU (Big-time offense. Needed late game collapse/heroics to beat ISU and become bowl eligible. Most success came in Big East)

    9) Charlie Weis - KU (NFL Offensive mastermind, yet has poor record... maybe the right recruits and JUCO's will have the Jayhawks competing the next few years)

    10) Kliff Kingsbury - TTU (Has the youth and the Red Raider Passion. As for the future, can't say for sure... will he be the next Kevin Sumlin or the next Derek Dooley?)

    So there you have it... I'm interested to see where you rank these guys.


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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    Quote Originally Posted by CostaDelMar View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Longtime "lurker," first time poster, Loyal Son, here. I had a discussion with some buddies the other day about who the "Best All-Around" coach is in the Big XII. Factored into this are Tenure, Wins-Losses, Fan Support, Staff, and Upward Progression. I recall Athlon sports did a piece similar to this, but they didn't place a lot of weight on past success or intangibles. I'm interested to see what your thoughts are regarding this discussion.


    Just for S&G, here is my list: (I tried to keep the Rhoads koolaid thirst in check as best as I could)


    1) Dan Snyder - KSU (The man is a legend, and has found recent success despite changes in NCAAF landscape)

    2) Gary Patterson - TCU (My Wildcard...The BCS Bowls speak for themselves, will compete in Big XII if recruiting stays successful)

    3) Bob Stoops - OU (Early 2000's success and the football culture in Norman in unparalled)

    4) Mack Brown - UT (Same as above, but what have you shown me lately?)

    5) Mike Gundy - OSU (Had the Pokes one game within an NC berth in 2011 and has been a consistent winner and leader down in Stillwater)

    6) Paul Rhoads - ISU (The gameday atmosphere, the upsets, the facilities, the staff, and the optimism have never been better in Ames. Hoping to take that next step)

    7) Art Briles - Baylor (Has bred a high octane offense and had the benefit of one of the best athletes of all time at QB. Still looking to take that "Next Step")

    8) Dana Holgorsen - WVU (Big-time offense. Needed late game collapse/heroics to beat ISU and become bowl eligible. Most success came in Big East)

    9) Charlie Weis - KU (NFL Offensive mastermind, yet has poor record... maybe the right recruits and JUCO's will have the Jayhawks competing the next few years)

    10) Kliff Kingsbury - TTU (Has the youth and the Red Raider Passion. As for the future, can't say for sure... will he be the next Kevin Sumlin or the next Derek Dooley?)

    So there you have it... I'm interested to see where you rank these guys.
    Might want to fix that one



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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    Quote Originally Posted by CyTwins View Post
    Might want to fix that one
    Well, after last night Hockey is on my mind... Whoops!

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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    Quote Originally Posted by CyTwins View Post
    Might want to fix that one

    Yeah, I knew T. Boone owned the Cowboys, but I didn't know that the Mildcats were owned by the same ownership group as the Redskins.

    Seriously, I can't see Patterson above Stoops. While he has an embarrassment of riches, it is hard to argue with being as consistently in the top tier of the league for as long as he has.


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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    After the troll thread yesterday, and I blame that, this looks suspicious.



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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    Quote Originally Posted by CostaDelMar View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Longtime "lurker," first time poster, Loyal Son, here. I had a discussion with some buddies the other day about who the "Best All-Around" coach is in the Big XII. Factored into this are Tenure, Wins-Losses, Fan Support, Staff, and Upward Progression. I recall Athlon sports did a piece similar to this, but they didn't place a lot of weight on past success or intangibles. I'm interested to see what your thoughts are regarding this discussion.


    Just for S&G, here is my list: (I tried to keep the Rhoads koolaid thirst in check as best as I could)


    1) Dan Snyder - KSU

    2) Gary Patterson -

    3) Bob Stoops -

    4) Mack Brown -

    5) Mike Gundy - OSU

    6) Paul Rhoads - ISU

    7) Art Briles -

    8) Dana Holgorsen -

    9) Charlie Weis - KU

    10) Kliff Kingsbury - TTU
    Briles should be above Paul. Patterson hasn't done **** in this league. Mack Brown is an underachiever. And Dan Snyder doesn't coach football.


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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    Bill not Dan.

    I would switched Brown and Gundy. Brown has a lot of long term success but seems to be trending down and imo, lists like these should always be what have you done for me lately. Since 2010, Texas is 22-16 and OSU is 31-8. That is a big difference given the athletic budgets.

    I might be tempted to switch Rhoads and Briles too. I wouldn't be afraid to say those programs were at similar levels when both coaches took over. While Baylor has the benefit of being in Texas so it should be a little easier building there than at Iowa State, Briles has gotten Baylor in the upper half of the Big 12 standings these past 2 years(Tied for 3rd and 5th) while Rhoads has not.



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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    I would have Stoops at the top because he is consistant, but the list is pretty good.



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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    1. Snyder
    2. Stoops
    3. Gundy
    4. Briles
    5. Rhoads
    6. Brown
    7. Patterson
    8. Holgersen
    9. Fatz
    10. Kliff 'em All


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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    1/2. Snyder/Stoops
    3. Gundy
    4. Patterson
    5. Briles
    6. Brown
    7. Holgerson
    8. Rhoads
    9. Weis
    10. Kingsbury



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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    1. Snyder
    2. Stoops
    3. Patterson
    4. Gundy
    5. Brown
    6. Briles
    7. Rhoads
    8. Holgorson
    9. Weis
    10. Kingsbury

    Using that set of criteria, this would be correct. Rhoads can't go higher because he hasn't had a breakout season yet.



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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    Mack Brown and Gary Patterson too high on list; Art Briles too low.


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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    How are people putting Rhoads above Skulletor? Head to head WVU beat ISU on ISU's field, WVU had a better record both in conference and overall, WVU was in their first year in the conference, etc.

    The same could be said for why I put Patterson above Rhoads but Patterson is one of the best defensive minds in college football and we beat them when their starting QB went down Thursday of game week. At the end of the year they were playing excellent football against more talented teams. They weren't winning them all but that program is in excellent hands.



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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    Quote Originally Posted by CostaDelMar View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Longtime "lurker," first time poster, Loyal Son, here. I had a discussion with some buddies the other day about who the "Best All-Around" coach is in the Big XII. Factored into this are Tenure, Wins-Losses, Fan Support, Staff, and Upward Progression. I recall Athlon sports did a piece similar to this, but they didn't place a lot of weight on past success or intangibles. I'm interested to see what your thoughts are regarding this discussion.

    If this counts in criteria everyone putting Patterson above Paul is dead wrong. Old boy has done nothing remarkable as a B12 HC. Same with Dana.


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    Re: Ranking the Coaches of the Big XII

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    How are people putting Rhoads above Skulletor? Head to head WVU beat ISU on ISU's field, WVU had a better record both in conference and overall, WVU was in their first year in the conference, etc.

    The same could be said for why I put Patterson above Rhoads but Patterson is one of the best defensive minds in college football and we beat them when their starting QB went down Thursday of game week. At the end of the year they were playing excellent football against more talented teams. They weren't winning them all but that program is in excellent hands.
    Well, which is it? Beating ISU on the field or not?


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