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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by Aclone View Post
    And?

    I'd be just as happy dropping the FCS schools altogether, and playing another Tulsa-level game.

    Shoot, for that matter, when CPR gets it rolling, bring on the bigger schools in that slot.
    Agreed, I am sick and tired of playing teams like UNI or South Dakota State.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    To be fair to Baylor, these games were likely scheduled following one of their regular 2 win seasons. And they had a series with tcu recently.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    We're getting into typical CF territory about ISU scheduling — extremes that are (roughly) between “drop Iowa and weaken the slate as much as possible” and “drop FCS, keep Iowa and bulk up even more.”

    Quite a few fans have a view somewhere in the middle, of course — centrist combinations of 1 & 2.

    Below are future schedules ... I'm curious how fans would change these if they were calling the shots.

    Let's pretend almost anything goes: Buyouts; immediate end to Iowa series; snagging another challenging opponent — but be somewhat realistic on that one: I doubt LSU is coming to Ames any time soon, for example. Also, assume today's basic postseason setup and Big 12 membership/round-robin will not change before 2020.

    2014
    N.D. State
    at Iowa
    Toledo
    2015
    UNI
    Iowa
    at Toledo
    2016
    UNI
    at Iowa
    San Jose State
    2017
    UNI
    Iowa
    at San Jose State
    2018
    South Dakota St.
    Akron
    2019
    UNI
    at Akron
    2020
    UNLV



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    We're getting into typical CF territory about ISU scheduling — extremes that are (roughly) between “drop Iowa and weaken the slate as much as possible” and “drop FCS, keep Iowa and bulk up even more.”

    Quite a few fans have a view somewhere in the middle, of course — centrist combinations of 1 & 2.

    Below are future schedules ... I'm curious how fans would change these if they were calling the shots.

    Let's pretend almost anything goes: Buyouts; immediate end to Iowa series; snagging another challenging opponent — but be somewhat realistic on that one: I doubt LSU is coming to Ames any time soon, for example. Also, assume today's basic postseason setup and Big 12 membership/round-robin will not change before 2020.

    2014
    N.D. State
    at Iowa
    Toledo
    2015
    UNI
    Iowa
    at Toledo
    2016
    UNI
    at Iowa
    San Jose State
    2017
    UNI
    Iowa
    at San Jose State
    2018
    South Dakota St.
    Akron
    2019
    UNI
    at Akron
    2020
    UNLV
    Those schedules look great. Great locations, keep Iowa, UNI now and again. I don't see anything not to like...



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    Those schedules look great. Great locations, keep Iowa, UNI now and again. I don't see anything not to like...
    The only thing I would change (if I could) would be a put in a bigger name opponent for the home-and-home Akron and San Jose State series. I think that is probably difficult to do -- I doubt there are many BCS teams that want to play home-and-homes with us. Personally, I am kind of over the whole "bowl" game deal, and want as many big games during the year as possible, bowl game chances be damned. I like going to work on a Monday in September knowing that ISU is play a big game on Thursday or Saturday.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    We're getting into typical CF territory about ISU scheduling — extremes that are (roughly) between “drop Iowa and weaken the slate as much as possible” and “drop FCS, keep Iowa and bulk up even more.”

    Quite a few fans have a view somewhere in the middle, of course — centrist combinations of 1 & 2.

    Below are future schedules ... I'm curious how fans would change these if they were calling the shots.

    Let's pretend almost anything goes: Buyouts; immediate end to Iowa series; snagging another challenging opponent — but be somewhat realistic on that one: I doubt LSU is coming to Ames any time soon, for example. Also, assume today's basic postseason setup and Big 12 membership/round-robin will not change before 2020.

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    at Iowa
    Toledo
    2015
    UNI
    Iowa
    at Toledo
    2016
    UNI
    at Iowa
    San Jose State
    2017
    UNI
    Iowa
    at San Jose State
    2018
    South Dakota St.
    Akron
    2019
    UNI
    at Akron
    2020
    UNLV
    1) Play Iowa every season - anyone that suggests otherwise is a total fool. It's the biggest sporting event of the year in the state of Iowa.

    2) Drop all of the road games against mid-majors. We've got money now, we can pay them to come here.

    3) Toss in an occasional major conference opponent in a home-and-home.

    Basically I would want the schedule to alternate between these two tracks:

    FCS at home, Iowa, Mid-Major at home
    Mid-major at home, Iowa, BCS conference home/away series



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Never play a FCS team. That is all I ask.


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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    1) Play Iowa every season - anyone that suggests otherwise is a total fool. It's the biggest sporting event of the year in the state of Iowa.

    2) Drop all of the road games against mid-majors. We've got money now, we can pay them to come here.

    3) Toss in an occasional major conference opponent in a home-and-home.

    Basically I would want the schedule to alternate between these two tracks:

    FCS at home, Iowa, Mid-Major at home
    Mid-major at home, Iowa, BCS conference home/away series
    That's a balance I could handle. I assume the FCS-Iowa-mid-major home game comes when Iowa game is in IC?

    This would bring up the question, "what BCS home-away would be feasible for both programs?" It'd probably start fairly low on the clout-meter. Would it be Duke, Kentucky, Minnesota, Indiana? ... Washington State, North Carolina?



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    We're getting into typical CF territory about ISU scheduling — extremes that are (roughly) between “drop Iowa and weaken the slate as much as possible” and “drop FCS, keep Iowa and bulk up even more.”

    Quite a few fans have a view somewhere in the middle, of course — centrist combinations of 1 & 2.

    Below are future schedules ... I'm curious how fans would change these if they were calling the shots.

    Let's pretend almost anything goes: Buyouts; immediate end to Iowa series; snagging another challenging opponent — but be somewhat realistic on that one: I doubt LSU is coming to Ames any time soon, for example. Also, assume today's basic postseason setup and Big 12 membership/round-robin will not change before 2020.
    Game #1: Schedule the usual FCS opener.
    Game #2: Keep the Iowa game. Forever.
    Game #3: Schedule some home-home series with regional BCS opponents like Nebraska, Colorado, Minnesota and Wisconsin.

    Also, **** Missouri. Never schedule them in anything ever again.


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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    That's a balance I could handle. I assume the FCS-Iowa-mid-major home game comes when Iowa game is in IC?

    This would bring up the question, "what BCS home-away would be feasible for both programs?" It'd probably start fairly low on the clout-meter. Would it be Duke, Kentucky, Minnesota, Indiana? ... Washington State, North Carolina?
    It doesn't really matter because the way I see it, with Iowa we essentially have a 10 game conference schedule each season with 5 at home and 5 away.

    For better competitive balance, I would adjust those two tracks I listed earlier, so I would rather see ISU alternate between these two non-con schedules:

    1) FCS at home, Iowa, Major conference home/away series
    2) Mid-major at home, Iowa, Either another mid-major or another FCS at home

    As for major conference teams to get home-and-homes with, that list you have isn't too far off. I'd like to see Minnesota for sure because Cyclone Nation would definitely make the trip to the Twin Cities for the return game. For that reason as well I think Illinois should be on the list... don't they want to schedule us, anyway? Then move on to get some in some recruiting territory, so maybe Cal, and Miami or USF, and then before you know it we'll be getting Nebraska and Missouri back in the rotation.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    I'd like to see us not doing home and home with mid majors. Why aren't we buying them out or getting a 2-1 deal?

    I'd also like to see us not playing good mid majors. Schedule some stinkers. Give us a chance to rest our starters and give the backups some game experience.

    Basically I'd like our non-con to be:
    Iowa
    a regional FCS team (UNI, NDSU, etc...)
    a bad mid-major

    I wouldn't be entirely opposed to occasionally trading out Iowa for Minnesota or Nebraska.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    1) Play Iowa every season - anyone that suggests otherwise is a total fool. It's the biggest sporting event of the year in the state of Iowa.

    2) Drop all of the road games against mid-majors. We've got money now, we can pay them to come here.
    Agree about the Iowa game. I believe the going rate to get mid-majors to come here without a returned game there is $1 mil and above. We can afford that?



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    College football in September would improve a lot if they got rid of allowing FBS schools to play FCS schools.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Obviously the posters saying that we need to stop doing home and home with mid-majors, dont know how much it'd cost to actually do that.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by CyDude16 View Post
    Obviously the posters saying that we need to stop doing home and home with mid-majors, dont know how much it'd cost to actually do that.
    How much would it cost? Because I'm pretty sure I could at least make an argument that it's worth it.



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